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Originally posted by mizza318 I for my self I am currently in the process of applying for my permanent residency papers. I am young educated (university & college all from Canada) have no criminal offenses, and lived here for the last 10 years, yet I have to apply under the same circumstances as someone coming from a 3rd world country with no education and knowledge of the country. For me that just does not make a lot of sense. And the wait times are ridiculous as well. About 9-15 months.

9-15? that's if you're very lucky
at least 18 months wait
btw have you seen this? http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resour.../section1.asp#5

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The Plan includes the introduction of the Canadian Experience Class, a new avenue to immigration that will permit, under certain conditions, temporary workers and foreign students with a Canadian credential to apply for permanent residence.

but of course by the time it will be implemented, we'll get our PR card
i'm just in the exactly the same boat (i have a degree from Canadian uni. and working for a Canadian employer now more or less in my field of study)
i've always wondered why people of knowledge & skill within Canada don't have an easier way of getting the PR here..

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Originally posted by El K Dee a friend of mine that attended university here and then got a work visa through the company he worked at for 2 years recently applied and got his permanent residency like a breeze....u really shouldnt have much trouble...

he must have had some special circumstances
both of my roomies with degrees and work experiences waited for 18 months to get the card

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Originally posted by lopi I recently came across this entry in one of my acquaintance’s journals on Purerave.com. I came to Canada when I was 4, and my parents has nothing but the clothes on their backs. They worked REALLY hard to get to where they are today, so you can imagine how angry I was when I read this. I just wanted to see what some of your reactions/opinions are to it. (And please spare us the "Your first problem is that you're on "purerave.com" smartass comments that we all know you love to make)

To the skinhead that wrote this, go crawl into a hole and die.

immigration is always a dicey topic on this board...

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Originally posted by Ania_xox First of all, the reasons for european colonization of North America in the 17-18th centuries stemmed from economic motives as well as the simple desire to "discover what was out there" (different from the motives of the second colonization period - of Africa - which was an attempt to "civilize" and "spread the good Christian word" among those they deemed as inferior peoples).

And this is relevant to the question of current economic, territorial, or political ownership... how?

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...as to who represents the Queen in this COLONY we call Canada and who theoretically (since you like to be so black-and-white about things - no pun intended) DOES this "answering" for us: 1999-2005 : Adrienne Clarkson --> Chinese background 2005-Present : Michelle Jean --> who, I believe, was actually born in Haiti

First of all, it's Michaëlle Jean, and secondly, you appear to be referring to the Governor General. That is, um... not the Queen.

It's like saying that Rogers is owned by Pakistanis because they're the middle managers and HR flunkies who report to the executives. That really doesn't matter, it's still owned and run by the lily-white Ted Rogers.

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Lastly, do you KNOW or UNDERSTAND anything about the culture, beliefs, or governmental systems of the Aboriginal peoples who lived here prior to the european conquest? You can pick up a copy of Pocahontas.

Oh right, I hear that's a highly informative and completely unbiased source of information on Aboriginal peoples, perhaps even as valuable as the Disney movie. Thanks for the reference babe.

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Sadly, concensus and a respect for nature were replaced by mercantilism and an exploitation of the earth. "A hell of a lot more" was done to this land for sure.

Oh goodie, we have another enviro-socialist here. Yes, the Indian tribes were highly respectful of nature, burning down forests to end up with areas better for hunting game, which they would hunt to near-extinction or actual extinction. It's just too bad that they weren't so respectful of each other, as we all know that the tribes slaughtered far more of each other during the antecedent years than the colonists ever did. The single biggest difference is that the colonists were able to win a strategic victory and retain control of the land, AND open it up to outsiders.

And since this thread really is about immigration, my point still stands: if you believe that the Canada of today is built upon immigration and immigrants, then don't thank the Cree, because they had no intention of letting in any of those immigrants. Not that they'd have wanted to come here if we hadn't had free enterprise, low taxes, and liberal values.

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You possibly just rendered your entire WEAK ASS UNINFORMED argument here a total falsehood.

You say that, and yet you seem to be lacking any sort of counterargument. What you've essentially said is, "I don't particularly like what you just said, therefore, I don't like your argument." That's all well and good, but it doesn't make any of it wrong (or a "falsehood"), and aside from your numerous barely-relevant asides, you haven't produced any facts or coherent logical arguments to either support your point or contradict mine.

Are we done yet?

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Digi at his bestest in this thread!

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Originally posted by jon jon immigration is always a dicey topic on this board...

You can say that again JJ

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Originally posted by soupastah your parents are the best, I love them. What she failed to include is that both of them came over w/ finished nuclear physics degrees, and NEVER bitch about not having a job in their field or pay equal to their merits. They work hard to make less than they're worth so that they can live w/ the values here and their kids can take advantage of them to the fullest. Mad respect.

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Originally posted by soupastah can you satisfy curiosity w/ this guys age?

He's 21 or 22 I think.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew 9-15? that's if you're very lucky at least 18 months wait btw have you seen this? http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resour.../section1.asp#5 but of course by the time it will be implemented, we'll get our PR card i'm just in the exactly the same boat (i have a degree from Canadian uni. and working for a Canadian employer now more or less in my field of study) i've always wondered why people of knowledge & skill within Canada don't have an easier way of getting the PR here.. he must have had some special circumstances both of my roomies with degrees and work experiences waited for 18 months to get the card

"As well, the Plan includes the introduction of the Canadian Experience Class, a new avenue to immigration that will permit, under certain conditions, temporary workers and foreign students with a Canadian credential to apply for permanent residence. Finally, the Plan will maintain the Government’s commitments to support family reunification and humanitarian objectives"

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT WHY COULDN'T THEY HAVE THIS WHEN I APPLIED

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Originally posted by mizza318 SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT WHY COULDN'T THEY HAVE THIS WHEN I APPLIED

tell me about it

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Originally posted by DigiNut It's like saying that Rogers is owned by Pakistanis because they're the middle managers and HR flunkies who report to the executives. That really doesn't matter, it's still owned and run by the lily-white Ted Rogers.

hah well played.

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