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we all have that power in our mind. we just don't know how to use it.

maybe one day humans will use their whole brain and everyone will be able to do maths and other things like that. maybe even telepathy

as for your friend, i think thats more a case of magic pills than evolution, anyone that has experienced an alternate conscienceness knows what thats like, even alcohol can do it, but when you sober up its back to normal.

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I could not imagine wanting to work towards attaining any material things that were beyond what was necessary for living a healthy existence.

i guess she should get rid of her computer then

good luck to your friend on finding what shes looking for

imo humans cant live like that, some people say they wouldn't wantto live that way, which i find strange, but humans are filled with hate and other f*ed emotions, we can never be happy or live in a utopia (unless we're on magic pills)

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Originally posted by Damo Humans today are making up the rules by which we live and the way our children will live in the future, the only problem is.... we've got it all wrong. It's not about money, self-importance or society - these are all man-made. The human world has been created not to benefit or to work for some purpose - but for power and control right now. things that generate money end up killing us, the more we hunger for money, the more we're slowly killing off our race. think about how long our lifespans could be if the human race wasn't obsessed with profit ASAP. things have gotten out of hand and it may be too late to resolve them. there is a next level, the human race has got to change, our generation is just a stepping stone to those changes, changes we won't live to see because of our predecessors. fuck commercialism, fuck the mainstream, fuck trends, fuck fakeness, fuck your personal problems, fuck your "life", it's all irrelevant. no one wants to face reality. then you're dead.

Well it's great to see you're in a good mood sunshine.

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Originally posted by vito maybe one day humans will use their whole brain and everyone will be able to do maths and other things like that. maybe even telepathy

I hope so! I can do it already with some people (telepathy) honestly, i have a psychic connection with my girlfriend.

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Originally posted by vito as for your friend, i think thats more a case of magic pills than evolution, anyone that has experienced an alternate conscienceness knows what thats like, even alcohol can do it, but when you sober up its back to normal.

well.. i both agree and disagree with that one. first off, pills and even booze can put you in that state. but all that does is show you the way. you can get there yourself, you don't need drugs.

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Originally posted by vito i guess she should get rid of her computer then good luck to your friend on finding what shes looking for

interesting that you would assume that this was a girl writing this, actually, it was a guy, early 20s, good friend of mine.

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Originally posted by vito imo humans cant live like that, some people say they wouldn't wantto live that way, which i find strange, but humans are filled with hate and other f*ed emotions, we can never be happy or live in a utopia (unless we're on magic pills)

I think you are Wrong. We aren't born bad, Society and culture makes us bad. We are all born peaceful, with no concept of racism or sexism. we learn these things from otheres. It's the bad apples among us that screw it up for everyone, and make us all hate.

I hope so! I can do it already with some people (telepathy) honestly, i have a psychic connection with my girlfriend.

hmmm interesting, sounds good
i think of weird things like that sometimes, but its hard to buy

well.. i both agree and disagree with that one. first off, pills and even booze can put you in that state. but all that does is show you the way. you can get there yourself, you don't need drugs.

maybe your right

interesting that you would assume that this was a girl writing this, actually, it was a guy, early 20s, good friend of mine.

i read a previous post, i thought you said it was a female friend of yours, my mistake

I think you are Wrong. We aren't born bad, Society and culture makes us bad. We are all born peaceful, with no concept of racism or sexism. we learn these things from otheres. It's the bad apples among us that screw it up for everyone, and make us all hate.

good point, but i think it would be very difficult to weed out the bad people and actually improve society. it'd be nice if it could be done tho

not only can it be done, it will be done.

and about me and my girlfriend, we DO have a psychic connection. seriously, i know what she wants. call it intuition i guess.

like i will have this feeling that she is about to phone, and i will go looking for the cordless phone. then i pick it up, and it rings in my hand. sometimes i even answer before it rings.

or i know she wants to have chicken for dinner, so i start thawing it out before she gets off work.

not only can it be done, it will be done.

when

and about me and my girlfriend, we DO have a psychic connection. seriously, i know what she wants. call it intuition i guess.

like i will have this feeling that she is about to phone, and i will go looking for the cordless phone. then i pick it up, and it rings in my hand. sometimes i even answer before it rings.

or i know she wants to have chicken for dinner, so i start thawing it out before she gets off work.

well, im happy for you
maybe you're more evolved than the rest of us
ive never had anything like that, how long have you been with her?

when? it's happening already. everyday i see more and more of this.
human kind is evolving at a crazy pace these days. the mayans say that 2013 is the end of the world. i don't neccesarily believe that but, it's something to think about.

as for me and my girl? we have been together for 6 and a half years. i will be turning 23 in a few days, so we have been together since i was 16.

we do have quite the history, she is my soulmate.

but, don't think you cannot achieve what i have. i experience these things with regular people, some that i harldy know! sometimes people just *click* you know?

psst.. by the way there is a quote button, it makes it a lot easier if you use it.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith we do have quite the history, she is my soulmate.

just what i was gonna say, but maybe you have developed that physic connection

another point, if we lived in that utopia we'd have no technology and i like technology


i know theres a quote button
but when i click it, its makes one big quote, i cant make separate quotes for each point, or can i?

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is there a simple way to make separate quotes?
if not i wouldn't waste my time doin that ^^^ every time i quote someone
i wonder if you know what im talkin about

looks pretty good to me man..

just put the quotes around stuff you are quoting.

I don't think we're evolving, we're all just adopting a pseudo-buddhist new-age mentality in Western countries, and I'm not sure why.

Perhaps it's the decline of Chritianity and its relevance to moden society, perhaps it stems from the deep need for connection as we all become ever-more isolated in our large, distrusting society, or perhaps it's just because this sort of mentality is becoming fashionable again..... but I guess we'll never know.

Now I don't want to become the skeptic that everyone rats on for destroying their perfect dream, but I don't think we need such flamboyant spiritualism to be happy and to live peacefully. I agree with your vision of perfect harmony, but I don't think we need to appeal to concepts like "collective consciousness" or being "psychic" to achieve it. If there is such a thing as collective consciousness it only extends as far as the fact that we, as human beings, are all inclined to think in the same congenital way (when all said and done), and if there is such a thing as being psychic, it only extends as far as being able to know someone so well that you are able to predict elements of their behaviour.

Again, I don't want to be the skeptic. I just advocate the notion that happiness needs to be built on solid, irrevocable foundations (namely the self) not on spiritual, new-age concepts that just might be true. I know that a few of you will disagree with me, and you are welcome to, but here I'm just presenting my opinion, and am not attempting to discredit your views in anyway.

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I think you are Wrong. We aren't born bad, Society and culture makes us bad. We are all born peaceful, with no concept of racism or sexism. we learn these things from otheres. It's the bad apples among us that screw it up for everyone, and make us all hate.

Happiness is a state of mind, and not all are privy to it I'm afraid. What about people with psychological or neurological disorders? And as the human race continues to devolve physiologically (as defective traits are allowed bred back into, and allowed to thrive within, the species) these sorts of disorders, one can only expect, are likely to increase - so how can these people exist in your perfect dream? There are 6 billion people on the planet, and each has a unique mindset. So long as there is humanity, there will be disagreements. All we can to is to curb this conflict into something contructive like negotiation and compromise, rather than something destructive like violence and war.

Humanity will never be united in a common aim so long as free thought is permitted. The only way to achieve the dream you talk of is via brainwashing and propoganda, and I see that as an improper means to achieve any end, regardless of how meritorious it may seem.

All we can do is promote the concept of the betterment of the self - those how can find happiness within themselves are more likely to act with a happy disposition, thus instilling happiness into others. All you can do is act like a good human being (whatever that might entail) and hope people follow suit.

Being a good person in myself, is the only possible dream I could ever entertain for the rest of humanity.