This reminds me of what I was trying to get at by posting this:
Not that "Hitler was a good person," because he wasn't. He did some of the most evil things a person can do and seemed to feel no remorse. I think that Smith may have had something like the following in mind, but ended up putting it in a really fucking clumsy way:
The Nazis were not some kind of "robots" or "demons" made of pure evil. They were just human beings. They loved their kids and their parents and their wives and their pets like everybody else. They felt the thrill of great music and great art. They enjoyed a nice afternoon relaxing in the country as much as anyone. They celebrated Christmas and were probably kind to each other during the holiday season. Lots of them probably even gave to charity.
And yet they still did what they did. That, to me, is much scarier than the idea that they were just some sort of "killing machines," which is sort of how they are portrayed a lot of the time. That a group of people can be "normal" and even genuinely kind to their own but horrifically murderous to others.
But most of the time people prefer to distance themselves from the horror by talking as if all the Nazis ever thought about was killing killing killing. As if they weren't even human. But they were.
Dec-24-2007 19:51
iammesol
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WILL SMITH IS FORTY NEXT YEAR?!!
Dec-24-2007 19:57
bananas
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batshit insane, eh? i like that one.
Dec-24-2007 19:58
chimera66
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quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
WILL SMITH IS FORTY NEXT YEAR?!!
he isn't really aging well either, especially for a black person. halle berry is older than he is and looks 10yrs younger.
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I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut.
To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.
Dec-24-2007 20:09
bas
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Originally posted by chimera66
he isn't really aging well either, especially for a black person. halle berry is older than he is and looks 10yrs younger.
Despite the fact that he looks better now than he did 10 years ago? Yeah.
Dec-24-2007 20:10
Clovis
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Originally posted by chimera66
he isn't really aging well either, especially for a black person. halle berry is older than he is and looks 10yrs younger.
She's also a marvel of age defying youngness.
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Dec-24-2007 20:11
chimera66
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Originally posted by Clovis
She's also a marvel of age defying youngness.
yes, but many black people tend to age well because of all the melanin protecting them from the sun...at least that's what i'm hoping. keep my youthful skin into my 50s.
as for him looking better now than before that is just crazy talk, he doesn't.
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Originally posted by Ygrene
I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut.
To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.
Dec-24-2007 20:13
Meat187
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Possibly Will Smith is misquoted here.
I think he's right about this:
quote:
I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'.
So I believe he wanted to say "Hitler tried to do what he thought was a good thing." and not "Hitler was essentially a good person."
Dec-24-2007 21:31
SuspicionVandit
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"hitler was a good person"
did will smith say that, because it isn't repeated in the article as a quotation.
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Dec-24-2007 21:34
bas
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Originally posted by chimera66
yes, but many black people tend to age well because of all the melanin protecting them from the sun...at least that's what i'm hoping. keep my youthful skin into my 50s.
I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!! How man times did you say I was wrong? HOW MANY!?
edit // Oh wait! I'm confusing yo with Ikohounovu again...my bad
Dec-24-2007 21:34
infinity HiGH
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"I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'. Stuff like that just needs reprogramming."
LOL whats wrong with what he said??
Dec-24-2007 21:37
Meat187
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
LOL whats wrong with what he said??
If I understand correctly what he meant, then nothing is wrong with it. See my post above.
Talking about Hitler or Nazis in public is one of the most dangerous things to do. Many people here in Germany have gone ashtray because they were misunderstood / chose the wrong words / etc. when talking about that subject.