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basilisk
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Re: 2008.01.19. SKAZI + YAHEL @ The Guverment with Mark Oliver and Mark S1

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Originally posted by nigel2k
Psytrance!!!!


Negatory. These clowns have nothing to do with psytrance these days.

Old Post Jan-06-2008 21:35  Canada
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Yohan
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lol. there is something when people who live and breath psytrance says IM and Skazi aren't psytrance


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lol colour me retarded

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Jem_hadar
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Ill bet Drew is fucking KILLING himself wish he was here in Toronto for this!! HAHA

No doubt.


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:))

Ok, first of all, everyone has their own taste in music, and i don't think it's fair that you guys are judging any of the djs!!! If you don't like them, you can simply say it's not your style and go to another freakin party!!
Also, Basilisk and Shankar, you guys should know better! Just because you attend and dj at psy parties in Toronto, doesn't mean you know it all and that you've seen it all! you consider yourself "modern hippies", but you go around bashing other dj's and their music...how would you feel if somebody did that to you?? where's the love.. ??? )))) hheh it's just funny to see you guys being so proud of knowing so much about psy, commenting, and telling other people what's good psy and what's bad, when u still have a lot to learn too!
I've been to psy parties all over man, and to tell you the truth Toronto is on the bottom of my list, and hey thats just my personal choice!!!
Just wanted to say that you guys probably listened to infected and skazi at one point, same as me, but as you get to know the music and the art of it, you learn about other djs that you start favoring more, so it's not nice to trash talk them just because u learned a few more dj names than that!

Anyways, this party should be fun, and to all of you who like psy and who know psy and who would like to get to know it, should come to see Shane Gobi on feb.9th at the Reverb!! and no i'm not a promoter....

peace

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if only...

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quote:
Originally posted by ÖZmözis


if only...


Ahh, no worries....we'll bring him too


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Shankar
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Re: :))

quote:
Originally posted by psy goa fan
Ok, first of all, everyone has their own taste in music, and i don't think it's fair that you guys are judging any of the djs!!! If you don't like them, you can simply say it's not your style and go to another freakin party!!
Also, Basilisk and Shankar, you guys should know better! Just because you attend and dj at psy parties in Toronto, doesn't mean you know it all and that you've seen it all! you consider yourself "modern hippies", but you go around bashing other dj's and their music...how would you feel if somebody did that to you?? where's the love.. ??? )))) hheh it's just funny to see you guys being so proud of knowing so much about psy, commenting, and telling other people what's good psy and what's bad, when u still have a lot to learn too!
I've been to psy parties all over man, and to tell you the truth Toronto is on the bottom of my list, and hey thats just my personal choice!!!
Just wanted to say that you guys probably listened to infected and skazi at one point, same as me, but as you get to know the music and the art of it, you learn about other djs that you start favoring more, so it's not nice to trash talk them just because u learned a few more dj names than that!

Anyways, this party should be fun, and to all of you who like psy and who know psy and who would like to get to know it, should come to see Shane Gobi on feb.9th at the Reverb!! and no i'm not a promoter....

peace




With all due respect, Toronto's scene is fairly new. Every party we see more and more people come, and you know what - they enjoy it quite alot! Who knows, maybe Toronto psy parties will go up on your list with time. Now, with regards to Skazi and IM and Yahel, etc... I appreciate all artists, and yes, IM had a big part in developing psy sounds. However to say that IM and Skazi (especially Skazi and Yahel) is psy trance now, is to say that Metallica is disco. Im not against these artists performing and playing. They should be playing within their own habitat- rock, together with acts like Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Nirvana. That is their niche. But to mislabel their genre of music to trick the mass audience into thinking that they are something they are not is a crime. And you know, if only it was my opinion. The fact of the matter is that I speak on behalf of 70-80% psy scene around the globe that shares the same point of view. And the fact that most of Toronto's psy promoters and attendees think the same, only points out on how evolved and intelligent our scene is here. Skazi has nothing to do with psy Trance. IM used to have to do with psy but no longer the case. Yahel...well, he's not even close to psy. Never really been.

Look, Skazi started out as a basement metal band. It is not a secret. Suddenly they discover psy trance and get this small idea in their monkey brains "hey! We can make some $$$$$! We never succeeded in Metal...we will succeed here by remixing Nirvana tracks (I suggest you contact the record labels to verify if they ever got permission)!" Ok fine, so you climb to your pinnacle of success. Please be humble about it, for god sakes. Please show you are actually putting an effort into your show, and not just jumping around with guitar aimlessly across the stage. Perform! Do what you get paid for! Well, instead, what we see today is a bunch of arrogant rock band members fooling with the minds of the audience who think they get top quality psy trance, while in fact they are getting the most cookie-cut, commercially produced, redundant music on this planet. I mean c'mon, mixing in rap and an occasional pre-looped guitar stabs with overdone psy kicks and selling it as psy-trance? Hell, Britney Spears is more creative!

Like Psy Goa Fan said, if you feel like attending a nice psy party, check out Shane Gobi on Feb 9th, and by all means, I was never against Skazi and IM performing in Toronto, but just so everyone knows - this is not a psy trance event. End of story.


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Vanos
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Shane Gobi

Yea he's sick
but reverb

quote:
They should be playing within their own habitat- rock, together with acts like Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Nirvana. That is their niche. But to mislabel their genre of music to trick the mass audience into thinking that they are something they are not is a crime.


Skazi play buttrock-goa. Rock influenced psy. Which doesnt mean that it is not psy. Ofcourse it has way more from psy than from rock, so i think it is reasonable to call it psy. Like look for example psy and goa are different styles too. But lets say filteria would come and they would call it a psy trance party. I dont think they would be unreasonable...

quote:
speak on behalf of 70-80% psy scene

Thats a bad argument. Thats like saying pvd is not cheesy because 90% of people say he is not cheesy.


PS on topic skazi clip

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hardcore trancer
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quote:
Originally posted by ÖZmözis
Infected and Skazi own pysch trance...



wow are you serious?


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Ahh, no worries....we'll bring him too




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mahalliner
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Winnipeg/Toronto

Just on a side note if anyone is interested there's a good book on the origins and some of the events in Goa leading to the popularity of Psy/Goa Trance:

http://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-W...99811171&sr=8-1

To deny the important influence of the electric guitar on the birth of Goa Trance is to deny the entire history of the genre. And yeah you're ideas of what Goa and Psy stand for will be pretty rocked after reading this book, I'm almost done it.

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ItalianPoiSon
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto

ok so we can clarify the last couple of pages Shazi+Yahel play wat kind of music?????.....Psy-trance???....y does Shazi have a guitar??? im guessing hes a live act as well???......wtf?.....


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