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Originally posted by chimera66 whatever i wouldn't go around and kill people with machetes or burn them in a church.

I saw this on the news feed the other day and was appalled. There were over 25 children in that church as well. Whatever the differences are there is no justification for burning up kids! I think we in the US really take for granted the seamless transfer of power we have. It's just not so in many parts of the world.

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Originally posted by Lira And tigers! Only in Kenya they've got tigers! ps.: Where's Wangari Muta Maathai?

a tiger ? in africa ?


is that why they run so fast ?

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perhaps the world can get off their fat asses and do something to help? oh that's right, nobody actually does anything unless the americans help fund/organise it.

hey, why isn't china sending troops to stabilise the region? fuck knows they have enough of them.

or the french? lord knows they need the training.

it fucks me right off that america gets constant bad press, yet the rest of the globe contributes a whole load of fuck all to peace keeping in these situations. sit around and talk and talk whilst people get butchered and burned alive.

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Originally posted by sheila-neil I saw this on the news feed the other day and was appalled. There were over 25 children in that church as well. Whatever the differences are there is no justification for burning up kids! I think we in the US really take for granted the seamless transfer of power we have. It's just not so in many parts of the world.

generally this doesn't happen...mostly because kenya is only on it's 3rd president the last transition after the dictator was pretty good.

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

I don't pay too much attention to things like Darfur and African problems as they seem to be consistent, without anything ever getting anywhere. I've yet to see a time beyond pangea when Africa wasn't anything but tribal warfare and corrupt governments. What is all this "aid" going to and why do people keep sending it without seeing any real results?

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Originally posted by chimera66 does anyone else seem to care that kenya pretty much one of the most stable countries in all of africa is turning to shit? granted i care because 98% of my family lives there and our tribe is the one being attacked/burned to death in freakin churches but seems like whenever i try to talk about this craziness like an adult few seem to care or know enough to talk about the situation. kinda frustrating especially since i am able to discuss stuff like this that happens in countries that i am not personally close to and if i don't know something i try to learn something. any thoughts or comments?

People don't care because the media doesn't educate them on it. News on remote places like Africa are either ignored or given a background status, mostly because the cultures are so different that the people over here don't understand their culture nor identify themselves with their problems. And because the news from there are usually so negative that the people here really don't want to hear about it.

The usual 9pm news on TV we have here will usually have 20 minutes on national politics, 10 minutes on international politics, 15 minutes on sports, 5 minutes on art/cinema/random crap, and in the middle of all that a 10 seconds mention of "oh yeah, 250 people were killed today in some shithole in Africa". It's fucking sad.

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Originally posted by noikeee People don't care because the media doesn't educate them on it.

I have to agree with that. The news feed I check out is from the BBC because I get a much better view of world news. US news is so limited its useless.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I don't pay too much attention to things like Darfur and African problems as they seem to be consistent, without anything ever getting anywhere. I've yet to see a time beyond pangea when Africa wasn't anything but tribal warfare and corrupt governments. What is all this "aid" going to and why do people keep sending it without seeing any real results?

that's unfortunate that you feel that way...world is smaller than you realize and you should care for other parts of the world because perhaps it will affect you in some indirect way.

as for the aid, maybe we shouldn't send food that we know will never reach hungry people and just sits in trucks until it goes rotten...difficult situation because africa isn't all as backward as some people would like to think. on tv they love to show the people out in the bush.

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I don't pay too much attention to things like Darfur and African problems as they seem to be consistent, without anything ever getting anywhere. I've yet to see a time beyond pangea when Africa wasn't anything but tribal warfare and corrupt governments. What is all this "aid" going to and why do people keep sending it without seeing any real results?

Typical American response.

After the enormous success of elections in 2002 and the seemingly widening democratic space among civil society (under Moi unlawful assemblies were subject to crackdown by the state police, a practice that has ended under Kibaki), the latest comes as a bit of a surprise. There has always seemed to be some tension between the various groups within Kenya, but for the most part everything remained stable as there was a healthy opposition party and a fair amount of coalition-building going on in parliament. In any case, Kenya has come a long way since the Moi regime, and here's hoping that the latest political dispute is resolved quickly before further violence is incited.

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Originally posted by sheila-neil I have to agree with that. The news feed I check out is from the BBC because I get a much better view of world news. US news is so limited its useless.

I think a lot of people forget that, despite being one country, most of our states are the size of European countries. Our news covers a lot more area than you would think.

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Originally posted by Lesbianosaur Typical American response.

So then please, engross me in the enriching and sustaining African countries. The ones whom aren't warring, but are discovering new things and aren't a detriment to themselves and others around them, but are producing without the aid of others.

hm?

My typical American and ignorant self just can't see these wonderful, new, exciting things Africa is doing these days.