Push

never heard him spin but I never liked pvd's productions and mixes

but actually you can't compare these 2.

Push, mike started producing before he started mixing, pvd started producing when he already was a good dj.

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heheh i would go for Plastic Angel ) the most underrated producer
in the last years ))

jokin )

i would go also for mike but paul was very good around 93-95. In that time i liked his tracks.!!!

yours elef / PA / Stargaze / Afterglow rec.

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www.afterglow-records.de

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OK,I've seen a lot of outrageous statements on this forum,but now I can't control myself any longer:

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Originally posted by DaveC Push (m.i.k.e) has so much originality it is unbelievable.

YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

M.I.K.E LACKS originality.I'll agree that the tricks M.I.K.E does know are incredible,and he can tear off roofs with tracks like "The Legacy" and "Silverbath",but he is NOT original.He has one formula that he uses over and over again in every track,which is:One huge buildup and then one huge riff to blow everyone away.(Of course,there are exceptions,like "Elements Of Life".)The thing is,M.I.K.E really knows how to make these two elements so fuckin' mental and off tha hook that when his tracks are played on big systems,they blow the roof off every fuckin' time.Also,he's good at varying the sounds he uses,so that it masks the simplicity of his music.And I'll hand it to him,it's difficult to pull those tricks off on almost every goddamn track that he produces.Not many can do that as effectively as M.I.K.E does,and certainly not so many times after another,without getting tedious and/or boring.That's why I think his productions rock.But his tracks are NOT original.That is complete BS.When you go down to the essences of his productions,they are almost ALWAYS the same.

PvD is WAYYY more original than M.I.K.E productionwise,although as mentioned,he has some problems too.But take the "Out There And Back"-album for instance.Here,he spends so much time setting the mood with all kinds of elements,even going to the means of using breakbeats once in a while to break up the (after a while,at home) monotonous 4/4 drive.And the whole structure of the album is so carefully planned in coordinaiton with his dj-experience,so that it feels like a whole piece of musical work instead of just seperate tracks.But when you think of it,comparing M.I.K.E with PvD is quite unfair,as they have TOTALLY different trance-styles production wise.PvD is definately a producer for the home listener,while M.I.K.E produces for the dancing masses.(which by no means is negative)PvD doesn't make those "blow tha fucking roof off"-tracks that M.I.K.E does,PvD is more subtle and mellow on his productions,even when he opens the flood gates completely like "Avenue" or "Columbia" on "Out There And Back".I think that he thinks that all that "blow tha roof off" stuff fits better in his djsets,and I think we've all noticed that by now.
(Rosenmontag = F**CKING OFF THA HOOK!!!!!!)

Therefore,I think it's quite unfair to compare these two,as they are two quite different musicians.I love them both,but M.I.K.E has yet to prove himself for me by making something COMPLETELY different.And does M.I.K.E even dj at all?

Oh and btw,I never understood what all the fuss was about with that Space Brothers-rework anyway.Both the rework and the Push remix are two totally ordinary trance tracks.What's so AMAZING about these?

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I think that he thinks that all that "blow tha roof off" stuff fits better in his djsets,and I think we've all noticed that by now. (Rosenmontag = F**CKING OFF THA HOOK!!!!!!) Therefore,I think it's quite unfair to compare these two,as they are two quite different musicians.I love them both,but M.I.K.E has yet to prove himself for me by making something COMPLETELY different.And does M.I.K.E even dj at all?

thank you.. that was one of the smartest comments i have seen thus far on these boards..

i really don't get this whole 'competitive attitude' form all the people on here...

why can't it be BOTH? I mean, must there be a best DJ/ best Producer etc.. it really all varies over time, there will be days in the future, when you might think : How could i ever listen to Push/ Pvd?!

Think of what you listened to when you were a little kid, problably different stuff from what you are listening too now.

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Originally posted by DaveC WTF that remix is Amazing! What a knob!

OMG im a KNOB......geez...that remix was horrible....the kumara remix was better and no one gives a shit who kumara was..

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With songs such as autumn..and Suzann, one has to wonder why do some people hate him.

Give me a break. 'Autumn' and 'Columbia' are pure crap. They put me to sleep, there is absolutely nothing that stands out in these boring tracks. I could listen to them a few times in a row and I wouldn't even remember how they go. And for example 'Columbia' isn't Trance, it's more like House. In short, I can't stand these tracks.

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M.I.K.E. has NEVER disappointed me

He HAS disappointed me. 'Tranzy State of Mind' is a pretty bland production in my opinion. Pretty mediocre quality, compared to "Strange World" and "Music Non-Stop," which were true masterpieces.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper OK,I've seen a lot of outrageous statements on this forum,but now I can't control myself any longer: YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! M.I.K.E LACKS originality.I'll agree that the tricks M.I.K.E does know are incredible,and he can tear off roofs with tracks like "The Legacy" and "Silverbath",but he is NOT original.He has one formula that he uses over and over again in every track,which is:One huge buildup and then one huge riff to blow everyone away.(Of course,there are exceptions,like "Elements Of Life".)The thing is,M.I.K.E really knows how to make these two elements so fuckin' mental and off tha hook that when his tracks are played on big systems,they blow the roof off every fuckin' time.Also,he's good at varying the sounds he uses,so that it masks the simplicity of his music.And I'll hand it to him,it's difficult to pull those tricks off on almost every goddamn track that he produces.Not many can do that as effectively as M.I.K.E does,and certainly not so many times after another,without getting tedious and/or boring.That's why I think his productions rock.But his tracks are NOT original.That is complete BS.When you go down to the essences of his productions,they are almost ALWAYS the same.

LOL
seems to me that you don't know half of his tracks

pe liquid overdose - contact
dark city - new age booster
complex climate - genetic stress
progrez - beam me up
perfect state - into a different

these all sound different, and have an other build-up
don't give comment if you only know his aliases push, plastic boy and mike

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PvD is an amazing DJ. Push is an amazing producer. Nuff said.

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Paul van Dyk can't even play keyboards. (He admitted that in one of his interviews.) All the chords/sequences in his songs were created with some tools and programs...

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Eugene wrote Paul van Dyk can't even play keyboards. (He admitted that in one of his interviews.) All the chords/sequences in his songs were created with some tools and programs...

so what, he still makes brilliant songs

I like PvD + M.I.K.E

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