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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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Jan-17-2008 10:44
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RJT
last minute disco

Registered: Oct 2004
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Alright, I've listened to this one twice again now since you posted this (keeping it in mind while listening)....
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I don't post sets because I don't consider what I do proper DJing, in particular when it comes to buying music. I don't really trawl to find individual tracks and develop a unique style. I don't have that mindset. Musically (although not technically), this set is a homage to Sasha and Digweed circa 1995, and I've not hidden that.
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...and what consistently came to mind was the realization that I'm beginning think compilations/sets/etc. should be done by people with this mindset as opposed to who you're deeming "proper DJ's."
I guess I'm starting to think the difference between the mindset you describe above and someone who's working to play out on a regular basis is the risk of a labor of love becoming simply labor. For the working DJ, staying relevant may become something that feels more like work and less like fun if what it takes to stay relevant isn't compatible with your tastes or standards - and a decision inevitably needs to be made as to whether or not continuing these efforts is worth worth one's time. I imagine this is part of the reason why the shear number of "DJ's" is so large yet the number of them who really stick with it past a year or two is so small.
This, on the other hand, and the frame of mind it seems it would take to create it, could never be anything less than a labor of love - and that's the reason it is as good as it is. Not only are the tunes instantly identifiable as at the very least sounding "classic" (if not just out and out qualifying as classics), but regardless of how long it took you to put together, it just sounds well thought out - like something that consciously or not you may have been working on since you've heard these tracks. There aren't too many mixes or compilations I listen to in a given year that fit that description, I really wish there were more.
And if you get a classic Leftfield/Underworld set done I can almost guarantee you I'll be a fan.
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Jan-17-2008 21:52
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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
This, on the other hand, and the frame of mind it seems it would take to create it, could never be anything less than a labor of love - and that's the reason it is as good as it is. |
You're right that my mixes are a labour of love, because I don't usually share them and don't usually play for them anyone for myself. I don't get paid for them, I don't get kudos for them. The only reason to make them is for myself, because I love the music and want to hear it.
However, I believe that this is probably because it's a classics set. Classics to me, and to a certain extent to everyone else as well. I'm paying respects to music I love, and that has to be a labour of love. Would I get the same effect if I'd tried making a set out of new tracks that haven't had their histories already written? Hell no. My set would be horrible, because I couldn't just go to the classics and pay loving respect to them. I'd have to dig up my own tracks. It'd change the whole dynamic of the set.
Perhaps the best sets by proper DJs are the ones that encapsulate this "labour of love" feel with new music. You have to find a sound you really love, where you can make the set purely for yourself out of tracks you just want to hear in a set. And to do that, you've gotta dig.
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Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24
Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/
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Jan-17-2008 23:07
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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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Jan-18-2008 12:49
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Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC
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| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I guess I'm starting to think the difference between the mindset you describe above and someone who's working to play out on a regular basis is the risk of a labor of love becoming simply labor. For the working DJ, staying relevant may become something that feels more like work and less like fun if what it takes to stay relevant isn't compatible with your tastes or standards - and a decision inevitably needs to be made as to whether or not continuing these efforts is worth worth one's time. I imagine this is part of the reason why the shear number of "DJ's" is so large yet the number of them who really stick with it past a year or two is so small. |
This is something I've been struggling with lately, since I had my heart in progressive, and naturally dug out music I wanted to play because I loved the music. After 2004 or so, when trance became insufferable and progressive became uncool, I didn't feel invested in the same way, and my sets lost their sparkle. Even when I pieced together ten blippy records I found passable, it was obvious that something intangible and passionate was missing from the product.
Privately, I've been rummaging through old 95-02 sets, such as those recently posted in the Sasha Archive thread, recapturing all that used to inspire me. Sure, there are tracks familiar to me, but it's the ones I don't know that really make me stop and wonder if I should just mine the past rather than forcing myself into the present. Could I make old records pass in public, without admitting a retro tendancy? Would people notice or care? Maybe not, so long as I love what I'm playing. There's plenty to be uncovered from that era, records as new to me as the freshest cut from Beatport. The hard part is that they're difficult to find. Could the scheme work?
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