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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

Yeah I see what you're saying. I think another thing about it that is so cool is that everyone has their own very peculiar way of approaching it and thinking about it. At least it seems so about people who invest a lot of time & energy into it.


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RJT
last minute disco



Registered: Oct 2004
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yeah I see what you're saying. I think another thing about it that is so cool is that everyone has their own very peculiar way of approaching it and thinking about it. At least it seems so about people who invest a lot of time & energy into it.


I definitely agree with all of this - I guess I've just become so tired of the standard "It's all about the journey, man" bullshit that I've heard for years from both the EDM raver kids and the epic jamband set that anything sounding remotely like the above statement instantly fucks me off.

At the end of the day I guess my only point is that rather than trying to nail down a definition of the "art of mixing" I think what people would be better suited to focus on is just whatever it is about deejaying that makes it fun for them, because just what that is won't be the same for any two jocks who really love what they do.

If you look at guys like Howells, Garnier, Vath, Burridge, Blake Jarrell, Max Graham, et al., you'll most likely find that they play and mix in vastly different ways - and other than the fact that some of them play somewhat similar tunes (you could easily throw jocks from other genres in there - just writing this quickly before bed), the only real common thread between them is just how much fucking fun it looks like they're having when they play.

I don't care if Blake tells me he's going to build Unicorn symphony where he throws the radio in the tub when a track hits that magic note or Garnier plays an hour of drum & tech-house with hints of detroit acid in the middle of a full on techno set while mixing in some godforsaken way I'll never understand anyway - the only thing I can always relate to is how much they enjoy themselves.

Is RJT the new Spirit5 too?



Only time will tell.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

I think you're about 2,000 words and 40 repetitions short.


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lücid
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: NY

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I don't care if Blake tells me he's going to build Unicorn symphony where he throws the radio in the tub when a track hits that magic note

i do. damnit, that's my whole reason for living.


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Blake_Jarrell
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL

Forget this mixing in key nonsense...more often than not the "right" track to play next isn't going to be in the same key. Just play tunes that get the girls dancing and the guys will follow.


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Ted Promo
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Can this be my goal??!

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
Forget this mixing in key nonsense...more often than not the "right" track to play next isn't going to be in the same key. Just play tunes that get the girls dancing and the guys will follow.


and if the girls don't dance then they're fucking skanks.

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Dojomaster26
Daft Milk



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Hickory

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Originally posted by nefardec
so here are some links to david mancuso sets:

http://deephousepage.com/

search "david mancuso" here.

there is a seven part loft party recording

As far as Francois K goes, I can give you links, but it's really something you have to see live! (can't wait for the deep space party tonight) It doesn't exactly make sense outside that ideal little room.

http://deepspacenyc.com/modules.php...wdownload&cid=1

these are links to live sets.

check out some tracklists here:

http://deepspacenyc.com/modules.php...ategories&cid=1


Thanks for the links! I know what I'll be listening to this week...

DJPat: "Learning" your tracks isn't as hard or time-consuming as you're making it out to be. The easiest thing you can do is to burn a CD of the tracks that you want to play out, and listen to it in the car, at work, etc. Make a mental note of where the breakdowns are, where the baseline comes in. How long do you have before the "meat" of the song starts? Even just listening to the songs to get familiar with them will help when you go to play them live.

Ted: They didn't dance to my set either (girls don't like Madonna?)

But they had a good time, and that's what counts.


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Blake_Jarrell
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL

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and if the girls don't dance then they're fucking skanks.


No, if the girls dont dance, play Pantera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km8xIs24UeY


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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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I think mixing in key is pretty appropriate for some styles of music/mixing - doesn't matter for all, but key clashes during mixes make me cringe hard.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

There's more to mixing in key than simply avoiding clashes, though. If you play a track in the right key after the previous one, you can get that "go up a gear" key change, which can be very effective.


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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

I use key info when I think I need it, with tracks that have heavy melody or constant notes, but more often than not I think it works to just go by instinct.


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ibz
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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: New Jersey, America

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As far as Francois K goes, I can give you links, but it's really something you have to see live! (can't wait for the deep space party tonight) It doesn't exactly make sense outside that ideal little room.




I'm right in jersey and I think I may have to shoot up to the city on a monday night to see him, got me interested.

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