listen to the way the kick sounds at the end of example 2.

there is not much musically going on there and the kick has "suck"

compression really is essential to make the kick pound right.
also sidechaining is important, to make the kick stand out and make the mix pump. if you don´t sidechain your kick into (at least) the bass track, your mix will definitely sound muddy on larger speakers.

I personally love the TC Works Native Compressor für compressing kicks, just set Attack to max (50ms), release between 50 and 100 ms, and try to find a ratio and threshold that makes the compressor pump. usually, a lower threshold and a higher ratio.

but first...SIDECHAIN ! kick drum into the bass track, set attack, release and threshold...use speakers, not phones !

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How is this so far.....
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Last edited by Lucidity on Feb-02-2008 at 14:30

i like it...think the saw-synth is a little bit too loud but thats a matter of taste

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I would have to say I think I agree with that.

I also think the timing is off just a tad on the lead melody.

How does the balance, and the bass sound?

yeah, the timing seems wierd when the synth starts coming in. but i think thats a delay that does something strange because later the timing looks good. maybe try and requantize the part.

i think the balance is good, I like the bass sound very much. I personally would use a different approach to get this kind of groove but its made well and sound really pounding, well done.
I personally like the Hihats a bit wider than you mixed them (not the fx they are perfectly wide, just the hats)...and maybe a bit louder...
and I would make the transition to the break a bit smouther, maybe put a low cut on the kick and automate it (e.q. fade the kick out using a filter...)

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quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Cache yeah, the timing seems wierd when the synth starts coming in. but i think thats a delay that does something strange because later the timing looks good. maybe try and requantize the part. i think the balance is good, I like the bass sound very much. I personally would use a different approach to get this kind of groove but its made well and sound really pounding, well done. I personally like the Hihats a bit wider than you mixed them (not the fx they are perfectly wide, just the hats)...and maybe a bit louder... and I would make the transition to the break a bit smouther, maybe put a low cut on the kick and automate it (e.q. fade the kick out using a filter...)

I will try those things later on today or tonite, I gotta go get a b-day present for my dad now....

I will still put some white noise fx too. And with the hat panning, I thought that too, but I didn't wanna go overboard. I will adjust it later and we will see

i actually like your tune. once its cleaned up a bit it could be sweet....im not sure if Im fond of the super saw......but i like the beginning of it...finish it

thanks, I will work on it soon, I'm in the middle of filing my income tax , so real soon I will be working on this track.

I have been analyzing this track on other stereo's and I still think my kick and bass sounds wierd. I think maybe its my monitoring or something, either that or its the other speakers I am analyzing on

well, that is another thing to keep in mind.

I think it doesn´t matter how good the quality of your monitors is. What matters more is that you know how they sound and how other productions sound on YOUR monitors. If you can make your tracks sound like the others on your system, they will sound good anywhere

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Trance Energy, Jaarbeurs Utrecht
Mayday, Westfalenhallen, Dortmund
Nature One, Pydna, Kastellaun / Hunsrück