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SMC
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
heh, my emphasis was on 'more'; he's one half of the act in question anyway


and prog psy isn't what i meant.. i meant fast-paced, epic trance. some examples..

darren tate - fall from grace/prayer for a god [fused uplifting trance with goa influences]
simon patterson - f16 [fused uplifting trance with astrix-esque psy]
miika kuisma - twisted/pandemia [atmospheric trance with a psy edge]
anton chernikov & crystal verge - evil spice [effectively slowed down goa with a thuddier kick & trancey synths]
three drives - greece 2000 (mwnn remix) [classic, had to mention it]
astral projection - anything is possible [as above..]


Human Blue, man. Human Blue.

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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Human Blue, man. Human Blue.


+1 look no further than Human Blue.
Also Oliver Prime and Nicholas Bennison fuses progtrance with psytrance in an excellent way.


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isoterra
hi



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
Also Oliver Prime and Nicholas Bennison fuses progtrance with psytrance in an excellent way.


again, not what i'm after.. i'm well aware of both those artists anyway

i listened to a fair few human blue tunes last year but the only one i can really remember grabbing me was zero tonic passion. the new harvest remix & virtual turnaround were alright, think i deleted the others though... seemed to sound more like progpsy than trance anyway from what i remember. i'll have to give them another listen sometime.

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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by isoterra

seemed to sound more like progpsy than tranceanyway from what i remember.


what is trance? what are you refering to?


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JonDC
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Birmingham

In my opinion, J00F and the Digital Blonde are the best producers in the scene. Like some of the others in this thread, I am not a huge fan of the Psy Trance scene - all of the parties I have been to have been full of what to me sounded very very generic. A lot of it seems to me like music that was trying desperatly not no be regular trance, but i doing this it only generates to its own formulas. It kind of trys to be intelligent for the sake of being intellegent, and lacks in substance (this is all just my opinion, and I am aware that there are many psy producers which this does not apply to atall).

I find that the J00F/digital blonde take on things does bridge the gap between psy and regular trance, and for me maintains the best elements of each. I only wish that more people made this kind of stuff, because as a previous poster said, there is a lot of musical ground to be covered.

However, I also think that 0.0DB do actually have their own formula. I dont think this is such a bad thing, because the style is new and I like the sounds, but I still think that there is room for some variation in their productions. They could do with trying a few slower paced tracks, maybe using vocals more (I think that some of John's old vocal remixes have came off really well). A vocal ballad kind of tune in the 0.0DB style could be amazing! I think opinions of the Digital Blonde's remix of 'lost in you' are unanimously good!

The other thing is that I think as much as everyone loves the J00F and DB tunes, most peoples favourite of all would still be the original mix of Legato. I think a few more regular trance masterpieces like this are what the scene really needs at the moment!

Just my thoughts anyway; I cant wait for the psy trance euphoria CD to be released, and I loved 0.0DB at gatecrasher (don't think they could have done much more than an hour though!)

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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
what is trance? what are you refering to?


well trance is a massive blanket term, that's not how i meant it there though.. i was a bit vague. i meant peaktime epic trance.. not for its big melodies & long breakdowns, but for that kind of tempo/groove/pace/energy.. only with darker psyish influences in there instead of euphoric/floaty bollocks

some of my own attempts for you to better get how i mean: 1, 2, 3

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RebeL9
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quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
well trance is a massive blanket term, that's not how i meant it there though.. i was a bit vague. i meant peaktime epic trance.. not for its big melodies & long breakdowns, but for that kind of tempo/groove/pace/energy.. only with darker psyish influences in there instead of euphoric/floaty bollocks

some of my own attempts for you to better get how i mean: 1, 2, 3


the first one there sounds very generic. the others were decent.
One thing I have noticed is that the new producers seems to be really jerky when it comes to using acid lines in their productions. Compare those acid lines in those samples to older tunes such which uses the Roland 303. Why are they afraid of pushing the raw acid sound to the max?


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
One thing I have noticed is that the new producers seems to be really jerky when it comes to using acid lines in their productions. Compare those acid lines in those samples to older tunes such which uses the Roland 303. Why are they afraid of pushing the raw acid sound to the max?


i don't think it's fear as much as lack of equipment.. i'd love to be able to get that classic raw acid sound but there's only so much you can get out of vanguard & phosycon :/

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
i don't think it's fear as much as lack of equipment.. i'd love to be able to get that classic raw acid sound but there's only so much you can get out of vanguard & phosycon :/

You do know ReBirth is free nowadays, right?


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RebeL9
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quote:
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You do know ReBirth is free nowadays, right?


and it have been for years now.


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isoterra
hi



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

i did not

<------ ignorant


will check out, thanks

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s3nate
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
again, not what i'm after.. i'm well aware of both those artists anyway

i listened to a fair few human blue tunes last year but the only one i can really remember grabbing me was zero tonic passion. the new harvest remix & virtual turnaround were alright, think i deleted the others though... seemed to sound more like progpsy than trance anyway from what i remember. i'll have to give them another listen sometime.


What about Demon Dance? That is a pretty good ch00n

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