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jonSun
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i guess your company trusted the wrong person with money.


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Capitalizt
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Do the right thing and return it all...

Karma is a bitch. It will come back on you X 10 one day if you don't.

Old Post Feb-10-2008 22:27  United States
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Omega_M
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Re: Re: Moral Dillemma..

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
a fool and his money are soon parted.


Are human actions not bound by a cause and effect relation ?


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Old Post Feb-11-2008 04:47  India
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Vernon_H
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Re: Moral Dillemma..

quote:
Originally posted by trewqy
I'm not superstitious..but as i grow older..I realised this karma thing might have some sense after all.


karma? what karma?

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Re: Re: Re: Moral Dillemma..

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
Are human actions not bound by a cause and effect relation ?


but they do not behave in the same fashion; there isn't necessarily an "equal and opposite" reaction the same way there is in the physics sense.

i could sneak next door right now and throw a brick through their window, and as long as i don't get caught doing so, there wont be any effect passed onto me.

of course i believe in "social karma" - the way in which you behave and treat people will of course have a relationship to how you are treated in return, but only if people have absolute knowledge of good/bad things you've done.

IF nobody notices the missing money, and IF nobody ever mentions it to anyone else, then there surely will never be resulting "bad karma" from taking the money. and if so, how?

the concept of real, spiritual karma is absolute nonsense, sitting right next to astrology on pkc's respect ladder.


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quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
invest it into blow. sell the blow, make a thou, give back a thou do it again.


start ur drug ring

I like this idea. Or buy some drugs, consume them, and become extremely paranoid about it for fun.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
invest it into blow. sell the blow, make a thou, give back a thou do it again.


start ur drug ring


clearly he already has:

quote:
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.....So we decided to ask for donations from the people upstairs to provide us with some more dope.......

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Fledz
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Return.


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Nrg2Nfinit
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you will get fucked if you dont return it. Someone is keeping track of the books. If the numbers dont add up with debits and credits.. your busted.

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Omega_M
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but they do not behave in the same fashion; there isn't necessarily an "equal and opposite" reaction the same way there is in the physics sense.


No there isn't. But lack of quantitative evidence does not necessarily mean that the mechanism does not exist. Karma (spiritual or whatever) is simply a cause-effect relation. Cause-Effect is the most fundamental relation which governs the dynamics of the physical universe. I don't see how human actions at all levels are not in any way bound by this relation.

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i could sneak next door right now and throw a brick through their window, and as long as i don't get caught doing so, there wont be any effect passed onto me.


How will you prove or disprove this ? Life spans over several decades and given the fact that the reaction may not be equal, opposite or instantaneous, you cannot say that this action will not result in an unpleasant effect at a later stage of your life. I admit it's equally impossible to prove that a future effect is tied up to this cause.

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of course i believe in "social karma" - the way in which you behave and treat people will of course have a relationship to how you are treated in return, but only if people have absolute knowledge of good/bad things you've done.


Human actions originate first in the mind and are then completed through the physical body. If the physical actions qualify as "bad" then I would also qualify the thoughts behind these actions as "bad". Killing someone and wishing someone death are both "bad" in my books. Social karma would simply be a subset of a more generalized version of karma.

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IF nobody notices the missing money, and IF nobody ever mentions it to anyone else, then there surely will never be resulting "bad karma" from taking the money. and if so, how?


Yeah but how would the person who stole the money know that ? There is no way for him to know this for a fact. I would go on and say that this may never be 100% true given the fact that stealing money is bad and hence adds up to bad karma and hence is bound to create an unpleasant reaction of some sort.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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im too tired to get right into this right now, i just wanted to swing by to tell you i think youre talking nonsense


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Omega_M
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It is incredible that you don't wish to extend the simple cause-effect relation to anything other than gross material aspects of the universe. In time, science will be able to quantify and understand the laws that govern such aspects as mind, emotions, human actions etc and may discover that the same fundamental relation also governs the dynamics of these things.


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