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piku303
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But that is why you have a whole library of kick samples like I've already said.


you cant have a full library of kicks that sound good in every instance and are in tune.

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Why not? There are really only a handful of keys that most people are making electronic music in. You don't have to use just one sample either. A lot of times I like to take a few different type of hits and layer them together to make a coherent kick drum.

I suppose you could synthesize a new kick drum from scratch every time you start working on a new song, but I find it easiest to work with samples.


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piku303
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Why not? There are really only a handful of keys that most people are making electronic music in. You don't have to use just one sample either. A lot of times I like to take a few different type of hits and layer them together to make a coherent kick drum.

I suppose you could synthesize a new kick drum from scratch every time you start working on a new song, but I find it easiest to work with samples.


i used a kick drum today made from my virus. the fundamental pitch of it was easy to tune to the song. i like the control it gives you over the kicks sound. a pure sine kick cuts through VERY clearly. its much easier than a good sounding kick that has so much stuff over top that it sounds muffled. once i made the pure sine kick, i layered a dirtier sounding kick overtop of it that using just the highs from the second layered kick.

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Besides 808 and 909 kicks I have never heard a synthesized kick I like. Especially not from a virus. Only crap PSY kicks.

Apparently the 808 and 909 doesn't make it's kicks with sine waves, but a square with a high res filter?


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Besides 808 and 909 kicks I have never heard a synthesized kick I like. Especially not from a virus. Only crap PSY kicks.

Apparently the 808 and 909 doesn't make it's kicks with sine waves, but a square with a high res filter?


I read that it was a short accented impulse wave which could be like a square wave. This is for the 808 though not sure bout 909.

There are two ways to get a kick drum noise, one is to self resonate an oscillator and the other I havent quite figured out yet.

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My lecturer used to set up a mic and record someone stomping on a wooden floor. He used to mess with all kinds of FX then compress it and he would get some great sounding kicks out of it.


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piku303
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theoretically with a proper pitch enveloper you can take any steady tone and pitch it to sound like a kick drum time to experiment....hehe.

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