quote:

Originally posted by ******** Overall PVD and Tiesto are "ok" producers. .they are probably better DJ's for sure..

Amen.

you'll see when you start to get older.... =)

your body doesnt have as much energy anymore so you turn a bit towards more laid back tunes....more 'listening music'

Tiesto produces by commitee so I would contend that most of his work is largely dependant on who he works with. When he works with material by Kid Vicious or something he becomes part of something fricking amazing like Suburban Train. I thought Suburban Train was far and away better than the track it was derived from (Reform I think). When Kid Vicious isn't around his tunes take on some of the influences of the other people that co-write and co-produce with him and often its just not to my taste.

I like early PvD stuff but then he was doing lots of things with Cosmic Baby and the whole scene was real DIY and nobody knew if it was going to ever work so the people doing it were doing it because they loved doing it, despite everything else.

I'm not saying that PvD doesn't love producing anymore or anything like that. Only he could answer that honestly and truthfully. But now he is pretty damn rich and theres no need to be DIY and theres no real drive to really outdo yourself when you can say 'I've already hit the top so what the fuck right?'. I reckon it shows.

Recent PvD just doesn't do anything to move me from indifference and why should it? Theres no urgency or soul in it. I don't get the feeling someone put their life on hold to make it. It sounds like music made by commitee and I don't really like listening to business decisions.

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Have you ever read the credits from his album booklets?

the thing is, most of Tiesto records have "Tiesto" as a producer instead of "Tijs Verwest" which is the legal way / right way to credit one producer. so in this case "Tiesto" can be seen as a group/team, and not a single person.

but anyway, i think it's save to say that mr Dennis Waakop Reijers has had atleast 50% of involvement on most of tiesto tracks, cause he is listed as the producer on all tiesto records since sparkles. and his denzel d tracks from 2000 sound exactly like tiesto tracks from that era:
http://www.trackitdown.net/artist/102906/denzel-d.html

Cor has written Sparkles and Theme from Norefjell, and what i read is that suburban train was actually ripped off from Kid Vicious and he wasn't actually producing it with tiesto, can't remember the whole story..

still would be quite ignorant to think that tiesto wouldn't be able to produce at all after all these years hanging out in the studio with one of the finest sound engineers and producers.

___________________
http://www.facebook.com/allendemusic