I don't see what's the problem with "releasing a DJ tool as a track" either. Sure there has been many tools coming out, and some have been overhyped and overplayed which is totally incomprehensible (Dubfire's shit). But they have its place.
Yes they do, it's called the "DJ Tool" section of Beatport.
They aren't tracks in the traditional sense, it's beyond me why people seem to want to defend classifying them as such. If you'd care to try to rationalize it to me, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
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Originally posted by RJT
Yes they do, it's called the "DJ Tool" section of Beatport.
Yes, but it is being packaged with the original release. Often you will see tools thrown onto a vinyl. You aren't saying they should print another record with just the tool now are you?
ps...archipel releases 70 free dj tools this week , not one of them is called a track...so download
Originally posted by elFreak
Yes, but it is being packaged with the original release. Often you will see tools thrown onto a vinyl. You aren't saying they should print another record with just the tool now are you?
I'd really love to know the logic you used to deduce that from my above post...
Is it really that much to ask that tracks are labeled appropriately?
Originally posted by RJT
I'd really love to know the logic you used to deduce that from my above post...
Is it really that much to ask that tracks are labeled appropriately?
You are not arrowed to have opinion!
Btw I agree they should have been in the tools section, only thing is nobody looks there ever. (except me)
And jesus, as if there wasn't already a ridiculous shit/quality ratio on beatport, in the DJ Tool section it is fucking disgraceful.
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Mar-03-2008 23:27
noikeee
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Originally posted by RJT
Yes they do, it's called the "DJ Tool" section of Beatport.
They aren't tracks in the traditional sense, it's beyond me why people seem to want to defend classifying them as such. If you'd care to try to rationalize it to me, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
Label it as "techno" or "tech house" = you get better sales than having it labeled as a "dj tool". It's just marketing. Besides "dj tool" is such a vague thing, tools can be divided into genres too. If I wanted to browse beatport for tools that fit my musical style, it'd be a bit hard because I guess that section is full of hip-hop and breakbeat shit.
If I started moaning about every track that is poorly classified in Beatport I'd be here all day.
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Mar-03-2008 23:31
elFreak
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Originally posted by RJT
I'd really love to know the logic you used to deduce that from my above post...
Is it really that much to ask that tracks are labeled appropriately?
my watson skills are elementarily filled with hopps and barley today. I misread. Still that being said its a question of marketing Rob. Many people who shop there have no clue what to do with a tool, or even visit the section. It is a question of visibility. (see: $$$$)
Originally posted by elFreak
Still that being said its a question of marketing Rob. Many people who shop there have no clue what to do with a tool, or even visit the section. It is a question of visibility. (see: $$$$)
You guize, pretty sure Rob knows this
He's just expressing his disdain of the fact.
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Mar-03-2008 23:36
RJT
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Originally posted by noikeee
Label it as "techno" or "tech house" = you get better sales than having it labeled as a "dj tool". It's just marketing. Besides "dj tool" is such a vague thing, tools can be divided into genres too. If I wanted to browse beatport for tools that fit my musical style, it'd be a bit hard because I guess that section is full of hip-hop and breakbeat shit.
If I started moaning about every track that is poorly classified in Beatport I'd be here all day.
I take it you mean to say that your idea of genre doesn't jibe with Beatport's, which is something completely different that deciding what is, and what is not a "DJ tool."
I think that classification is far less subjective than any other.
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Originally posted by elFreak
my watson skills are elementarily filled with hopps and barley today. I misread. Still that being said its a question of marketing Rob. Many people who shop there have no clue what to do with a tool, or even visit the section. It is a question of visibility. (see: $$$$)
That's fine and well - but I just want to be clear that my understanding of both your point and noikee's is simply that Beatport is in the business of tricking people into spending their money on shit they didn't really want in the first place (which we've all known is the case by shear number of tracks we've purchased that had "OK sounding" samples and turned out to be utter shit).
If that's where we're at, of course I have to concede the point - that doesn't mean I think it's ok, which of course brings us back to the "If I whine about everything wrong about Beatport..." statement again, which is really no different than playing the "See no/hear no/speak no evil" card. I've got no problem with other people taking that line, I just choose not to.
