You shouldn't have posted anonymously. It only serves to diminish your credibility, as if you're afraid people won't take you seriously under your own name.

Having said that, those are some good points, particularly #3 and #7. Most of the people in the "scene" that I call friends either have things in common with me other than electronic music or have a particular chemistry. I sort of gave up on clubbing when it felt like it was getting harder and harder to meet those people, or maintain relationships with the ones I already knew.

Of course I still go out from time to time, and mean no disrespect to the people I haven't kept tabs on, but I think that the people you surround yourself with ultimately define who you are, and if you aren't proud of your friends then it's hard to be proud of yourself.

...And yeah, there's a lot of denial when it comes to the drugs, but that's how it always is with drugs.

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2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

..it's always a good idea to re-evaluate your habits and how you spend your time.

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it takes lots of balls to do something like this, anonymous or not. because "man can convince anyone he's somebody else, but never himself".

cheers man, i wish you all the best in life !!

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i'd also like to add another thing, if you dont mind. and by adding this i swear to god im not trying to start another heated discussion or another flame war or anything. simply, i've been trying to find means to get this message to all partygores nowadays and this is great opportunity. if you can understand what im trying to say, GREAT, if not... just try to save your quirky comments for another occasion.

if you wanna party then go out and do it. have THE BEST motherfucking time of your life, and do it smart. but please, keep your shit for yourself. there's always time and place for stuff but some thing are best left unsaid.

one love !!

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alot of people i know didnt need to wake up (including myself) but just start realizing that going to a club 2-3 times a week every week wasnt really neccessary...its money, its braincells, its strain on ur body. Several people i know go to parties regardless of who the dj is saying they are going "for the dj"...but really....how many djs really play something different from the other? ive seen my fair share of big names and i just dont have the anxiety to see them again...going out nowadays to me is a little treat every once in a while and i dont regret missing out on parties should that happen...i have a blast going with friends to a tiny lounge and listen to some tunes over a fun conversation rather than get my ears (that i have to spare due to diminishing hearing) hurt more and more because the only way of talking at a club is by yelling to each other..

i'd say its not just the toxins that people should think about but also rememberting that theres more to life than just clubbing...

i met an acquaintance of my sister's a short while back and he prides himself on going out 5 nights a week and "picking up women" as an added bonus. the guy is 29....i feel its sad that he actually chose to debate that his lifestyle is better than mine...

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Originally posted by nomore This will likely be deleted but I hope that it reaches some of you and at least starts a bit of a debate among some of you. I'm a former tranceaddict with a new name... I frequented Guv, CZ and other spots depending on which DJ's were playing where. The recent CZ raid made me think of my former (and fairly recent) life as a "partier" and thought MAYBE I could get through to even ONE of you out there. I'm mainly talking to you older partiers that just can't let go, grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene".

I think you're confusing Nightlife with substance abuse dood. I'm 23. Like El K Dee just said, some people get to a point where they realise they're going a bit over board and readjust their life style. A few years ago I used to drink from friday at 6 right after work until sunday at 6pm being awake all weekend. Goood times were had, but it was getting tiresome. So that only happens once in a while now. hahaha.

Good for you that you cleaned up your act, but don't blame clubs on your drug and alchohol abuse. My father ruined his life from substance abuse...like wife, kids, job, friends, type of lost his life. He even never frequentd bars, never mind stepped foot in a EDM club.

I'll most definatly be going to clubs and concerts well into my 30's...probably 40's, 50's and 60's. I'm sure my taste in music might change, but I'll be there.

Some people enjoy golf or motor sports or theater plays. I enjoy music...preferably in a louder enviroment and with more people than my house will accomodate.

My drug and alcohol consumption will have little to do with how many shows I attend in a week.

If you were doing that much drugs, you must have been hanging aroudn the wrong crowd. Especially if you were talking about the next time Tiesto is in town....frinds don't let friends listen to Tiesto

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Originally posted by Aleks_B ..it's always a good idea to re-evaluate your habits and how you spend your time.

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"Originally posted by Aleks_B
..it's always a good idea to re-evaluate your habits and how you spend your time."

x 10 all the time...

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what about the 40 yrolds, and 50 yrolds.. i see them at guv all the time???? are they wasting their lives???

I am 26,, so that means I only have 4 years left!!! wow, i better start partying hard!!! well I'm glad miami is less than a week away!!!

edit***.. ppl do drugs to become happy.. ppl that don't are happy with alcohol.. EVERYONE ABUSES SOMETHING>...and if u pride yourself being sober,, than even better!... what impresses me is someone who can dance without drugs or alcohol and manage to get ppl in a good mood by getting people to dance!.. GO ON THE DANCEFLOOR WHEN NOBODY IS HARDLY DANCING AND START TO DANCE ... its better sober!

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Originally posted by Jayx1

Jayx1 - cant figure out how to cut and paste your aswers to Nomore questions, but;


Stop making excuses and burying your head in the sand. Surely you can't be that naive.

Nomore makes some VERY good points and I think that by arguing against what she / he says, you are denying that this could happen to you.

If you think you are invincable to the effects of partying, then you need to have a word with yourself.

The truth is that the scene is addictive whether you take drugs or not, especially if all your friends are in the scene. Like Nomore says, I know people who are incapable of talking about anything but the next party. It's frightening.

Thank you nomore for your thread. I see what you have been through and understand the negative experiences on one's life when drugs take the best of someone.

Myself and ALL my older friends of the scene, have a second life as well, where we don't let these worlds collide. We have great careers (for me, 12+yrs at probably the largest IT company in the world, and promoted several times in that span), some have families, cottages, go to BBQs, company picnics, etc... with friends outside of the scene) This is perhaps what you personally would call age-appropriate.

Perhaps we know what goes on more because we's seen it before in others, and fortunately for ourselves, learn from that.

When I was in my early 20s, sure I liked to test my limits like anyone else at that age. By the time you're 30-something, it becomes fairly clear where one is, where they are going, and think more about the future. Perhaps this is where you are now. I spent many years building my career, and my future. It's not easy, it's work. We all have avenues to the way which we work to deal with stress. For some, going to a club is a little getaway. It's a getaway, not a substitute for reality.

So life is all about balance. Going to extremes in both positive and negative is never good. Cutting everything out is not the key. "All things are good in moderation". So I'm glad you realized it was time to focus on your outside life, and working to improve it, and share your experience with others.

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Originally posted by nomore Ask yourself these questions: I'm mainly targeting the "old partiers". [QUOTE]1. When I go out, am I one of the oldest people in the room?

Nope, the middle aged skasians have me beat by a decade or two.

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2. Am I over thirty and most of my friends are in their early to mid 20's?

Over 30, most of my friends are in the same ball park. I have more friends over 40 then in their early 20s; however, I fail to see the relavance of having younger friends.

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3. Are most of my friends that ARE my age unemployed, working crap jobs or have unrealistic goals (like "I want to be an actor... but have no training etc...)

Nope, nearly all of my friends are successful professionals or skilled trades persons.

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4. Am I slowly losing my "old friends"?

Many of my friends have been friends since highschool.

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5. Am I having a difficult time making ends meet?

I've paid off almost half my home in 3 years... I'd say I'm doing okay

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6. Am I REALLY happy?

Yes.

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7. Are my friends REALLY my friends (can I have a conversation about anything other than when the next time Tiesto comes to town)?

Yes, sometimes we even have real conversations at parties.

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8. Am I periodically DEPRESSED? The reason you're depressed is because that's what ecstacy withdrawl does to you... especially 3-4 days after your last dose...

No.

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9. Do I need drugs to have fun? (or can I party "sober"). If you can't party sober, then it isn't "actually" fun...

I can party sober, I prefer not to.


So, am I okay... do I have your permission to keep going out or do you, the self-appointed age appropriate party watch-dog deem me unfit to party?

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down