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Originally posted by julien2 We need to make the most of it, and give a motivation to promoters to give us more forward-thinking music. I'm not talking about the "conventional" club music scene (including tribe, which occasionnally brings a more "risqué" artist), which is pretty healthy at the time. But the "real" underground music scene needs to be revigorated a little. First thing first, DJs and artists need to be able to make a living off it here, in order to stop the massive exodus to berlin.

The more time goes by it seems like Montreal is going in the opposite direction of the underground scene. I dont know what it is, either people are less open or the promoters and clubs just don't care. I always said Montreal needs some local heroes again to give life to this scene. Maybe something will happen but not anytime soon, just have to wait and see what happens.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht The more time goes by it seems like Montreal is going in the opposite direction of the underground scene. I dont know what it is, either people are less open or the promoters and clubs just don't care. I always said Montreal needs some local heroes again to give life to this scene. Maybe something will happen but not anytime soon, just have to wait and see what happens.

lol we posted at the same time, check the post above yours. The local heroes are fleeing . There's a big problem right there !

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Originally posted by julien2 lol we posted at the same time, check the post above yours. The local heroes are fleeing . There's a big problem right there !

yea I read an article about Coutu Dumont leaving and ive read a few things that Pheek has written, Its pretty sad. I think when Montreal likes a DJ or style they tend to stick to just that and completely ignore everything else thats going on in the world.

Its part of the explanation

There's a big big BIG hype phenomenon in Montreal, and in Quebec in general.

From a sociological point of view, Quebecers tend to have a massive collective appreciation of something, until the get bored of it. It may be Celine Dion, Tout le Monde en Parle, or La Petite Vie

Only hockey wows them all the time, even if Canadiens suck, they still follow it (although it seems they are good this season). Thats good for the team's owner !

(and dont worry, I am a quebecer myself lol)

edit: although i dont like hockey. i still think its a wonderful sport though

re-edit: not only guillaume

you guys state quite the synchronized ideas in terms of time and tastes
anyways no i wasn't joking for rave.ca
you losers should definitely switch forums LOL
mr underground
well youll find yourself with 13 year old party shrimps but hey, theyre all about the underground too haha
the EDM scene here is blossoming on a superficial yet international point of view, if the city likes it, the tourists like it, you're pretty much a picky kid with favorite candy aspiring to run the show
so like i said... party with 13 year olds or go on a hippie trailer trash trip across the nations heading straight to the sunset and following your pseudo-underground impulses

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Originally posted by fullhouse you guys state quite the synchronized ideas in terms of time and tastes anyways no i wasn't joking for rave.ca you losers should definitely switch forums LOL mr underground well youll find yourself with 13 year old party shrimps but hey, theyre all about the underground too haha the EDM scene here is blossoming on a superficial yet international point of view, if the city likes it, the tourists like it, you're pretty much a picky kid with favorite candy aspiring to run the show so like i said... party with 13 year olds or go on a hippie trailer trash trip across the nations heading straight to the sunset and following your pseudo-underground impulses

You obviously haven't been to the eclipse festival. Cause you would see that you don't just need Candy ravers to have an amazing scene with good music.

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Originally posted by fullhouse you guys state quite the synchronized ideas in terms of time and tastes anyways no i wasn't joking for rave.ca you losers should definitely switch forums LOL mr underground well youll find yourself with 13 year old party shrimps but hey, theyre all about the underground too haha the EDM scene here is blossoming on a superficial yet international point of view, if the city likes it, the tourists like it, you're pretty much a picky kid with favorite candy aspiring to run the show so like i said... party with 13 year olds or go on a hippie trailer trash trip across the nations heading straight to the sunset and following your pseudo-underground impulses

1- Rave.ca is a joke to ravers and clubbers of all kind. Candy kids are creepy . Fortunately, from what I have read, the people who post there are generally not that kind of people, only the people actually attending the events. But anyways, all communities are laughable. Some people would argue that TA is a hell hole full of trancecrackers, even on MTLTA.

2- There is always room for improvement. And you don't seem to understand the notion of underground music. Undergound does not mean 3 kids in a dark room making unmarketable creepy self absorbed music.

As I stated earlier, the conventional music scene is healthy in Montreal. So we have the circuit of House/Opera/Tribe/dance-hip-hop clubs (like 32000 of them, way too much for such a small market)/festivals/occasionnal massives AND a healthy afterhour scene (now that one player - who, by the way, was a good player, but in a market too crowded - is out (Aria). But if you look at music from an objective perspective, historically, innovation and breakthrough have never come out of the mainstream, as healthy as it may be.

Whereas Montreal was once considered the world's techno capital (in terms of innovation, obviously, not in terms of mass appeal; which is quite interesting if you consider our city is a small market), it is now considered a no man's land of innovation, and producers are actually leaving the town.

What is the solution ?

Obviously it's not easy to pin-point. There is a cultural lack in terms of the population's interested towards.

But the solution is not stating that everything is perfect the way it is. And giving up because of despair is not a solution either.

So, people, go out and support your locals, discover, explore, demand more from the experiences you're proposed, and please don't stop rocking this wonderful and unique city.

perfectly said Julien

Fullhouse I dont know why you decided to come on this forum to act this way. Stay out of posts like this if you have nothing intelligent or interesting to say. Ive probably forgotten more than you will ever know about this stuff so just stick to talking about things you understand.

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hahaha lol if thats true

TAG, welcome back !

if not

TAG, please come back !

you guys don't seem to understand the backbone of a joke...
its easy to say what underground isn't, in which case you are actually pretty wrong,

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Undergound does not mean 3 kids in a dark room making unmarketable creepy self absorbed music.

underground music is defined by its distance from mainstream music, its originality, and is thus made with specific tastes
so 3 kids in a dark room making unmarketable creepy self absorbed music
is actually the essence of the underground

this exodus of producers you're describing is very likely, and it's too
bad... but if there was a crowd big enough to make a living off, they
wouldn't be leaving right? so we got a big group of people that enjoys
the same music... where's the problem ? together as one
there's ALWAYS room for improvement and innovation is invited.
whether rave.ca is a joke for me and for you it doesn't change the fact
some of these kids listen to music you definitely won't hear anywhere
else.
UNDERGROUND.

one point on which i 100% agree though is that ARIA was one of a kind.
there is nothing comparable today in the city, at all.