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julien2
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Apr-25-2008 16:55
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nchs09
Traceaddict in training

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
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Re: Radio Slave is as formulaic a producer as Deadmau5
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Yet he seems to get far less flack for it. Why?
I should say that I play tracks by both on a regular basis, but also think that 90% of what each of them has made is so steeped in routine that it's as boring as music can get.
Deadmau5 gets shit on pretty regularly for making a bunch of tunes that sound the same, but in the end almost all of them have more going on in them than any Radio Slave tune. The classic argument in favor of RS is "Oh, they're just beat/dj tools" - well that's great and all, but apparently the bulk of DJ's the world over didn't get the memo, and we've all thus been subjected (at one point or another) to hearing way, way more of a Radio Slave tune played in a set than we ever should have.
So why is it, then, that some of you think Radio Slave has escaped the "I only make this kind of tune" stigma? Is it because of the audience he plays and makes music for? Does someone want to try and tell me that the quality of RS tunes is somehow objectively better?
I just don't understand how a producer who is quite literally only capable of making 10+ minute loops of the same samples garners as much respect as RS has, especially considering the amount of criticism other artists get for doing the exact same thing.
I have never once heard Radio Slave try anything that I would consider remotely different from his usual routine. | I dont think deadmause makes simple music, i just think he makes shit music. In the other hand i think Radio Slave makes good music. How simple it is to make i could care less because it is always something better than what i could make.
oh and F- for another deadmause thread, did you do this just to take a piss?
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Apr-25-2008 17:02
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Clovis
techno jungle shit

Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Imo radio slave's tunes have a unique quality that I can't find in almost anything Deadmau5 has ever made. He strips down tracks to their most basic elements but I find those elements pleasing and well put together. It is rather formulaic, and it is extremely drawn out and simplified, but for a reason, because his whole style is based around making you concentrate and get drawn into very simple elements. I happen to like a lot, sometimes it doesn't work (I dunno what the fuss over Grindhouse Tool is), other times its absolutely amazing (Dead Souls remix, K-Maze)
To me, its less about him having a lack of ideas and taking the easy way out, than it is exploring this method of making tunes. He's pretty much the only one making tracks in such a manner, imo it's a pretty distinct style.
My opinion of him and his tunes is also swayed by the fact that I have hung out with him several times and gotten to know a little bit more about how he thinks musically. I may not always agree with his music, but I do respect him and his approach.
Dead Souls remix is probably going to remain my favorite track of this time period (07/08), and become a classic in my eyes.
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Apr-25-2008 17:05
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theevolpenguin
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2008
Location: NY
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| quote: | Originally posted by stevėsto
yea whats with the whining? what are we going to establish from this discussion? tech/minimal scene is ruined since its boom in popularity a couple years ago, the hipsters moved in and now it suffers a disease known as vanity. people's judgement on music is influenced greatly by knowing the artist name and the artist's rep'. minimal used to be an escape from conformity, now it suffers from conformity. the worst attributes of electronic dance culture are in this scene, like "knowing the right people". anyway im sure radio slave sucked a lot of showbiz cock to get where he is. what a stupid uncreative artist name too. |
aw are you ok
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Apr-25-2008 17:05
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RJT
last minute disco

Registered: Oct 2004
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| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Imo radio slave's tunes have a unique quality that I can't find in almost anything Deadmau5 has ever made. He strips down tracks to their most basic elements but I find those elements pleasing and well put together. It is rather formulaic, and it is extremely drawn out and simplified, but for a reason, because his whole style is based around making you concentrate and get drawn into very simple elements. I happen to like a lot, sometimes it doesn't work (I dunno what the fuss over Grindhouse Tool is), other times its absolutely amazing (Dead Souls remix, K-Maze)
To me, its less about him having a lack of ideas and taking the easy way out, than it is exploring this method of making tunes. He's pretty much the only one making tracks in such a manner, imo it's a pretty distinct style.
My opinion of him and his tunes is also swayed by the fact that I have hung out with him several times and gotten to know a little bit more about how he thinks musically. I may not always agree with his music, but I do respect him and his approach.
Dead Souls remix is probably going to remain my favorite track of this time period (07/08), and become a classic in my eyes. |
See, I get all of this - believe me. No one is going to fault anyone in this thread for just liking whatever they do - taste is taste. I just think it's interesting that both Deadmau5 and Radio Slave are the epitome of formulaic EDM producers, yet their work is received so differently, which was really the point of this thread and not which one is "better."
I just don't think statements that are effectively little more than "I like the noises he uses" can really account for, or justify, such a massive difference in reception.
Anyways, people should just be listening to stuff on Kompakt. That's where the entertaining music is. 
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