Originally posted by echosystm
you assume sidechaining is something new, lol! it has been used for AGES in hardware compressors. you just think that it is new because benny benassi started abusing it a few years ago and everyone caught the bug. also, modern production standards are a lot better than even 8 years ago, heh...
I've been listening to dance music now for 16 years now and seen all the improvements in production quality. I brought my first sidechain compressor around 98 (nano compressor) and it was pretty cool if redundant in my studio in those days.
I must admit i've never tried to use it subtly or really even on kick / bass. I prefer punchy kicks and tight rolling basses and mix with the kick more prominent.
Clever (read precise) eq'ing, sound selection, compressor attack / release are all valid techniques in helping achieve a cohesive sound.
sometimes u want to smash kick and bassline together so it become more bass. smack my bitch up is probably not sidechained, if so reverse lol. use the kick as a boost for baseline so its louder when the kick enters.
Apr-27-2008 14:58
Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
Anyone know how to mute the Kickdrum in Cubase and still get the sidechain effect from it ?
i know i said i wasn't going to come back here... but this is my last one. REALLY!
quote:
Originally posted by palm
sometimes u want to smash kick and bassline together so it become more bass.
no, the phasing would actually give you less bass
quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Anyone know how to mute the Kickdrum in Cubase and still get the sidechain effect from it ?
are you using cubase 4? if so, route a prefader send to the sidechain. this way you can mute the kick channel and it will still be sent. you can probably do the same thing in sx3 using the quadro method (i'm not sure).
Apr-27-2008 15:31
Zak McKracken
Trance
Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
no, the phasing would actually give you less bass
thats a 50/50% chance
Apr-27-2008 15:35
Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
are you using cubase 4? if so, route a prefader send to the sidechain. this way you can mute the kick channel and it will still be sent. you can probably do the same thing in sx3 using the quadro method (i'm not sure).
SX 3, how exactly do u route a prefader ? there is a prefader button on the send channel, but it doesnt change anything.
You could create a sidechain specific channel? I usually do this for increased flexibility.
I lay about a new audio channel with kick playing a 4/4 and just turn the track volume down. Useful if you want the effect to continue after the audible kick has stopped.
Originally posted by flutlicht junky
You could create a sidechain specific channel? I usually do this for increased flexibility.
I lay about a new audio channel with kick playing a 4/4 and just turn the track volume down. Useful if you want the effect to continue after the audible kick has stopped.
Turning the volume down removes the sidechain effect. What do u mean specific channel ?
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada OR Punjab, India
personally i just an 8 band stereo mulitband compressor....Takes care of a lot without really producing any serious ducking.
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Apr-27-2008 23:02
xcalator
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2004
Location:
Re: a lot of people here use sidechain
quote:
Originally posted by newtrancer
i noticed a lot of guys and girls here use sidechanin effects for stuff you can normally do other ways.
I know everyone cant be using it. Id love to hear some samples from some of your work with no sidechain used ,so people will realize that they dont need it. so post some samples.
Which is the purpose of the topic? ... I don't really understand... some people use it, others not, and what?
The most important is if the track is good or not, sidechain or not!
no?
Apr-27-2008 23:25
Eldritch
Eldritch Project
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden
What's with all this no sidechaining elitism?
It doesn't have to be used on bass, and it doesn't have to be that obvious.
I like to use it on percussion and pads too. You can even use other triggers than a kick.
For example, compressing a pad with the hihats as a trigger.
Apr-28-2008 00:45
piku303
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2007
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i prefer to do the kick/bass oopa thing and then have other rolling basses that have low end cuts and sidechain. even if you have a good clean kick/bass combo sidechaining can sound great. sidechains from kicks sound awsome on pads as well as long leads with delays. get creative with it and its your friend.
