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Originally posted by Ishad This has to be the crime of the centuary. Unless people start comparing it with WW1, WW2 or holocaust and similar mass suffering.. No other person has suffered more pain individually in all his life than this girl has.. for no reason and that too inflicted by her own father. If you know anything more grave than this than name it.

I'm thinking she's not the only one that's been living in a box...

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THE two boys plucked from monster Josef Fritzl’s dungeon talk to each other with animal-like growls. And one walks like a monkey, sometimes crawling on all fours. It also emerged that their mother Elisabeth — caged with the boys by her rapist father — never told them the truth about their terrible plight. Instead she invented a fantasy world for them by filling their heads with wondrous stories of princes and princesses. The Austrian boys DO understand their native language, gleaned from years of watching TV in the windowless bunker. But their accent is unique and when left alone they babble in their own coded tongue. Police Inspector Leopold Etz said: "With each other, the boys communicate with noises that are a mixture of growling and cooing. "If they want to say something so others understand, they have to focus and really concentrate — which seems to exhaust them." It is thought Felix’s joints and muscles did not develop properly in the cramped bunker, possibly due to malnutrition. And the little lad walks like a monkey. Insp Etz said: "He prefers to crawl but can walk upright if he wants. He mostly uses a mixture of the two — half walking, half crawling." Doctor Berthold Kepplinger, who has examined the boys, said: "They communicate with each other but with a far-from-normal way. "Their mother taught them some reading and writing, although Elisabeth herself lost much of her childhood knowledge due to the years of abuse that began when she was 11 and her imprisonment from the age of 18. "There were no books in the dungeon. The main source of education, over the years, has been the television." The children’s only exposure to anything like real life was through storylines of daytime soap operas. Psychiatry professor Rotraud Perner, who has seen them, said: "It seems they may have created their own illusory world." Insp Etz told how Felix has been "full of joy and excitement" at seeing the outside for the first time. The officer said: "He made excited gurgling noises when he saw a cow. He slaps the air with his hand when he can’t control his excitement. "He squeaked when he saw the sun. He kept covering his face with his hand after realising looking at it directly was not possible." But the boy is scared of confined spaces — and clasps his mother while in lifts. Elisabeth, now 42, had seven children through being raped by her 73-year-old father in the dungeon below his house in Amstetten. He immediately "adopted" three — Lisa, 16, Monika, 14, and Alexander, 12 — and took them above ground. A twin of Alexander died at birth. And yesterday the furnace in which Fritzl burned the body to maintain his awful secret was revealed. The red solid-fuel burner is in the family cellar, just outside the security-coded trapdoor leading to the dungeon. The antiquated clunking contraption has a steel hatch and pipes linked to the house’s central heating system. The other child kept underground, 19-year-old Kerstin, was still in a coma last night with kidney failure. Fritzl remained in custody as more details emerged of the children he had with wife Rosemarie, 67. They had four daughters apart from Elisabeth — named Rosemarie, Ulrike, Gabriele and Doris — and two sons, Josef Jnr and Harald. >LINK<

no words, really, to fully describe how horrible this crime and this man/monster is. one of the very worst in modern times known for sure. horrible.

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Originally posted by Q5echo no words, really, to fully describe how horrible this crime and this man/monster is. one of the very worst in modern times known for sure. horrible.

Seriously? I'm not taking away from the gravity of the situation, but that seems an awfully hyperbolic thing to say.

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I don't agree. First, sick shit like this happens all of the time in every country of the world. The most recent thing shown is the girl who was locked in a dungeon since she "ran away" to another country. How do you really expect to stop this from happening? People can drop off the radar all the time, no matter what country they are in. The guy managed to hide it from his wife for years, in their home, so how were the police supposed to find them? Are you suggesting RFID tracking chips for everyone upon birth to stop this? Even if RFID happened, if they locked the children into the basement, how can you save them?

This is far from a Austrian problem. It's a fucked up sociopath problem and sadly, there are bound to be a bunch of them worldwide.

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[rant] First off, this thread is actually being dignified with all these reponses? Second, how fucking PC are you guys, seriously? Only an idiot would generalize a disgusting crime to an entire culture. I see now that if you're Jewish, white, black, or pretty much anything other than Arab or Muslim, everyone gets up in arms about even the slightest stupidest things. So it's cool to tar Muslims, Arabs, and Islam all the time... eventhough the vast majority of you don't know jack shit about Middle Eastern, South Asian, or "Muslim" culture or the religion itself. You're rather quick to buy all the bullshit propaganda coming out of the media and the white house. Russians, Japanese, Native Americans, black people, Hispanics, just about everyone you can think of has been demonized (especially in times of War). But no, couldn't fucking happen to Muslims / Arabs... they're just a bunch of fucking crazy savage sand******s. Well, at least I know not that most people are still infact quite intolerant and prejudiced in this day and age... being a bunch of politically correct pussies doesn't mean you're not prejudiced... or have unfounded fear for no good reason... ignorance.

I know that's off topic, but this thread is fucking stupid... and the abundance of responses here as opposed to the virtual silence when it comes to ragheads is well... a little hard to not notice if you belong to a particular ethinic group. And no, I'm not just ranting here. I bet most of you don't put up with dirty looks or racial slurs on sometimes even a daily basis... or, in most probability, a bunch of morons trying to get a rise out of you with racial / ethnic slurs... and even when you ignore it, well, they still feel the necessity to pick a fight with you... not a single person, but the way cowards always do, in groups. [/rant]

Nevermind me though, how could I possibly have a valid point given my ethnicity? Not to mention I'm also batshit crazy...

EDIT: But to be fair, I'm guessing those of you who're more vocal about this stuff probably were in the past, and simply don't have the energy to engage in such a futile activity anymore.

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Don't even get me started on some of the shit that happens in the Middle East. It may not be a father locking up his daughter for 24 years, but in Saudi Arabia there have was a father a couple of years earlier who killed his daughter since he suspected she wasnt a virign and wasnt married....the autopsy revealed that she in fact a virgin.

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Originally posted by CHRles Don't even get me started on some of the shit that happens in the Middle East. It may not be a father locking up his daughter for 24 years, but in Saudi Arabia there have was a father a couple of years earlier who killed his daughter since he suspected she wasnt a virign and wasnt married....the autopsy revealed that she in fact a virgin.

I also heard that Mohamed, "those people's" prophet be blessed; married and had SEX with a 9 year old lil girl... OMFG!!!

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Originally posted by CHRles Don't even get me started on some of the shit that happens in the Middle East. It may not be a father locking up his daughter for 24 years, but in Saudi Arabia there have was a father a couple of years earlier who killed his daughter since he suspected she wasnt a virign and wasnt married....the autopsy revealed that she in fact a virgin.

What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

its bait man..... just walk away...

it is almost like some people just learned about white slavery yesterday...

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Originally posted by Zild it is almost like some people just learned about white slavery yesterday...

slavery knows no color.....

True but people like to think it doesn't happen in the West.

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