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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles He can just download Audacity for free...

The people who want all the answers right away usually are the type who will get all through programs for free through a torrent

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What is a torrent?

Wow.
It's a filesharing method. Many musicians utilize it (and other means) to acquire prohibitively expensive audio software. It's usually illegal.
Wow.
It's a filesharing method. Many musicians utilize it (and other means) to acquire prohibitively expensive audio software.

The implication Teknotronic was getting at is that theres a stereotype of people who download lots of expensive software, each of which is complex. Those users, armed with excellent tools, expect to be able to immediately make good music. They're quickly overwhelmed and disappointed at their inability to immediately make the pHaT BeAtZ they fantasized about, and ask forumgoers question after question after question ad nauseum.

In contrast, theres the opposite sect of people who buy all their software, and dedicate to it, and read the manual, etc. Since they've sold off children to buy the software, they dedicate to learning their tools to the fullest extent. They're also usually older.

Elitism and trolling abounds. Most people fall in between.

Last edited by MOK on May-17-2008 at 01:17

You mean to tell me that if a beginner, who comes to a forum where these types of questions are asked every day, acutally uses that forum to ask a question, they are less of a musician than somebody who just suffers through the manuals and doesn't ask for help?

Does the phrase "Work smarter, not harder" mean anything to you?

So if you were drowning right in front of us, and you asked for help, we should sit back and criticize you for not being dedicated enough to save your own ass? Or should we criticize you for simply not knowing how to swim?

And what does that have to do with whether or not you paid full price for your software?

Then, by your logic, I'm a bad guy because my wife bought me my software as an anniversary gift, and then a year later I asked a couple of questions about the type of music I like and want to create?

Is that really representative of the community values of this forum?

Btw, I'm 37. Where does that rank me on the good guy/bad guy continuum?

There are, of course, the people who know where to get high quality software that is provided free of charge by the maker, and learn how to use it as well as the prohibitively expensive stuff.

But most people seem to think that kind is a myth.

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As stated, I'm talking about stereotypes.
As stated, most people, like you, fit in between.

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There are, of course, the people who know where to get high quality software that is provided free of charge by the maker, and learn how to use it as well as the prohibitively expensive stuff.

KVRaudio.com for the win.

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Originally posted by dragontrance You mean to tell me that if a beginner, who comes to a forum where these types of questions are asked every day, acutally uses that forum to ask a question, they are less of a musician than somebody who just suffers through the manuals and doesn't ask for help? Does the phrase "Work smarter, not harder" mean anything to you? So if you were drowning right in front of us, and you asked for help, we should sit back and criticize you for not being dedicated enough to save your own ass? Or should we criticize you for simply not knowing how to swim? And what does that have to do with whether or not you paid full price for your software? Then, by your logic, I'm a bad guy because my wife bought me my software as an anniversary gift, and then a year later I asked a couple of questions about the type of music I like and want to create? Is that really representative of the community values of this forum? Btw, I'm 37. Where does that rank me on the good guy/bad guy continuum?

You misunderstood me. The person ahead of me was speaking in stereotypes that you probably weren't privvy to. I was not talking about you.
You gotta calm down, man.

Whatever.

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When you use samples in a DAW or a sampler, typically it is playing back .wav files. The pictures shown above are what .wav files look like when you load them into a .wav editor, but zoomed WAY out.

The closest thing to samples I've used in FL Studio is Soundfonts. Forgive me, again, rank beginner here, but it was my understanding that to use samples you have to have permission from the artist who created them. So I've not tried to incorporate samples into my work. I'm just building with the sounds and synths that are packaged with the app.

You know, I apologize if you guys are finding my questions inappropriate.

If this is the wrong place to ask these questions, can you point me in the direction of the right one? Please?

Its cool, man, its just miscommunications.
Samples = any snippet of audio, from any source. You can get away with a lot in samples.