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Originally posted by Steve-Neil I've only just started watching MMA and to a novice He comes across as being the MMA equivalent to early Tyson. Kinda lights out in a few seconds. He admits that He has a lot to learn and He's still young. Even though He's prolly the only person in the world to have aged worse than Me..

Early Tyson? No. Early Tyson vs Kimbo would be a 3 second fight.

Kimbo has a ton to learn and it's obvious until he gets to that point, if he ever does, that he is going to be given matches that he can win. Apparently he barely even did that with this last one. Like already said, throw him in there with one of the legitimate UFC fighters and it's going to be a very quick one.

That's another thing that kind of annoys me though. I have wrestled and done a little martial arts and it's basicaly a slap in peoples faces who do that to see a joke like this guy make it big and become famous and on top of that, represent the sport.

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Originally posted by Steve-Neil I only say that because in the previous three fights that I've seen, Kimbo has fucked the other guy up early in the first round..

the 3 guys he fought were all very much below average fighters. I don't even know who the first guy he fought was...but Tank (the 2nd guy he fought) was like 10 years past his prime. Tank had lost 8 of his last 9 fights going into the fight with Kimbo. Thompson has lost 6 of his last 8 fights going into the Kimbo fight, and had the reputation of having one of the worst chins in MMA. All his opponents were hand picked for Kimbo to get easy KOs.

so, don't read too much into his quick KOs. Kimbo is a marketing ploy, and as soon as he fights someone with any kind of skill, its lights out.

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Didn't some retired cop beat him in one of those street fights? I remember watching that fight on youtube a while ago. Why isn't this guy fighting?

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Originally posted by Steve-Neil Dude, I put on 15 pounds when I gave up drinking.. Lemme know how to get rid of it in 24 hours..I'm 190 for the first time in my life..

I've lost 15 pounds in a week before.

To lose that much in a day, you need a sweat suit and a sauna.

Keeping it off is the trick though lol. The guys who pull off extreme weight cuts before fights usually put it right back on after they weigh in, and can sometimes weigh up to 15 pounds heavier than the weight they are fighting at come fight time.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Didn't some retired cop beat him in one of those street fights? I remember watching that fight on youtube a while ago. Why isn't this guy fighting?

LOL, yes. That same guy did get into MMA, and got his ass kicked.

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Originally posted by Steve-Neil I keep seeing everyone use the words "marketing ploy" even though I'm sure this is the case. Don't you think they could have picked someone better though ?? . Why have they picked Kimbo to further the cause ??

I'd imagine millions of hits on his youtube videos will do it.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Didn't some retired cop beat him in one of those street fights? I remember watching that fight on youtube a while ago. Why isn't this guy fighting?

he was a massachusett's state trooper. Hell of a fight, it's all over youtube and break.com

the 2 guys were literally beating the piss out of each other for a good 8-10 minutes before kimbo ran out of gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKb1jeg-fgI

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Originally posted by Steve-Neil Doesn't protecting your fighter happen throughout all contact sports though. I'd certainly want a few easy fights under My belt before taking on legitimate contenders. Do any of you think He has potential ?. From My very limited experience I can see He's got plenty of balls and a solid chin. He can certainly hit and withstand a beating but lacks skills on the deck. No matter how bad you think his last fight was, you have to give credit to the guy for enduring thirty elbows to the face in the second round and living to tell the tale.. Hard hitting and a solid chin for the win.

yes, you're absolutely right, new fighters should get protected. The problem is, that MMA is a very new sport. People who have been watching it for years know who the great fighters are, and know Kimbo isn't a serious heavyweight. Elite XC snatched Kimbo up, and immediately had him headlining MMA cards, and are hyping him up to be this incredible fighter.

as far as Kimbo having potential...I really don't think he has much to be honest. As far as MMA fighters go, he is very very old, and he's not really bringing in any solid tools to begin with. people see him knock guys out and they assume he is a great standup fighter. He isn't. He may have some raw power, but his stand up technique is non existent. He just puts his head downand swings for the fences. A good chin...yeah, I'll give him that. As far as we can see, he has a very solid chin.

But look at the champions in each div in the UFC and the tools they had before getting into MMA...all of these guys were in their 20's when they got into the sport too.

155 pounds - BJ Penn - Won the jiu jitsu world championships before getting into MMA.

170 Pounds - George St Pierre - Incredible world class athlete.

185 - Anderson Silva - Insane muy thai practitioner and a jiu jitsu black belt.

205 - Quinton Jackson - another incredible athlete, had wrestling
experience before getting into MMA. He was also a bit of a thug like Kimbo, but again, Quinton was like 22 when he got into MMA.

Heavyweight - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - was a jiu jitsu black belt before coming into MMA

Kimbo Slice - 35 year old, ex bum and youtube street fighter.

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Originally posted by zizack 170 Pounds - George St Pierre - Incredible world class athlete.

that mah dude


Agree 100% with what Zach is saying. I was actually going to respond with a similar analysis, but he said it all. nothing to add

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby that mah dude Agree 100% with what Zach is saying. I was actually going to respond with a similar analysis, but he said it all. nothing to add

GSP is a freak. His athletic ability kept him in every fight early in his career, even when he lost to Hughes the first time, he was very much in the fight. Now that his technique is catching up to his ability, he's gonna be damn near unstoppable.

also, according to Jason Jollins, GSP has "an amazing body"

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Originally posted by zizack GSP is a freak. His athletic ability kept him in every fight early in his career, even when he lost to Hughes the first time, he was very much in the fight. Now that his technique is catching up to his ability, he's gonna be damn near unstoppable.

that is...if he can beat anderson silva.