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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Did you bother to read the articles I posted? Take a look at how Obama did among lower-to-middle class white folk in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oregon, Colorado, Texas, etc. Particular locations carry particular cultural histories. http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.co...a-and-obama.php

i tend to skim quoted text, but i briefly read it.

this is not about middle class white people, noone is saying obama doesn't receive support from middle class whites. the appalachian demographic is certainly not middle class; it's lower and working class - specifically poorly educated. also, i did not see anywhere in either article saying that obama is doing well with lower-working class white people. another thing, rural certainly isn't synonymous with lower income. So to say obama is doing well in rural areas is totally missing the mark. For example, Vermont is very rural, but it certainly isn't low income and the people for the most part aren't poorly educated.

Many places in the South have very high populations of black people wheras Appalachia is almost 100% hillbilly.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd For fucks sake it's not about racism. I went to great pains to point this out in my original post. It's about being known and trusted + McCain being suitably moderate for most people.

I tend to agree with this. I think Obama would have been better off to let Clinton go down in flames this year and wait 4-8 more years before making a run for president.

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Originally posted by Zild Those aren't hillbilly states damnit. Hillbilly states are synonymous with Appalachia not with the South.

Right, which is why my argument is that Obama struggles in Appalachia.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Right, which is why my argument is that Obama struggles in Appalachia.

Cool I must have misread what you wrote earlier.

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