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Originally posted by Magnetonium W.O.W. at Part 13

Yeah.

I've watched all 14 parts.. it's worth it.

Though I think I've seen a documentary of some guy that actually managed to get out of the planned "tour", and got into the abandoned, poor areas of NK, which are really sad. This is the element that is lacking in this documentary, you don't really get that view, which is essential to further understand how fucked up NK is.

But if I was in the journalist's place, I'd be shit scared through the entire tour to even think of disobeying anything and going anywhere else, so I understand.

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WOW ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7945816.stm

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First North Korean pizzeria opens It is unclear how many North Koreans will be able to try the pizzas North Korea's first pizzeria has opened in the capital Pyongyang, according to a Japan-based newspaper. Chefs were sent to Italy for training by leader Kim Jong-il, who said North Koreans should be able to try the world's best foods, said Choson Sinbo. Most people in the secretive communist state live on an income of about $1,800 (£1,265) a year, but a wealthy elite can afford a more luxurious lifestyle. An estimated two million North Koreans have died in famines since the 1990s. Mr Kim's expensive tastes in food have often been commented on by those who have met him. He is believed to have a fondness for caviar, French wines, shark fin soup and cognac. But the new restaurant's manager, Kim Sang-soon, said Mr Kim believed all North Koreans should "also be allowed access to the world's famous dishes". I knew well from television and publications that pizza and spaghetti are world famous food, but it is the first time that I've tasted it Jong Un-suk, customer Making pizza for Kim Jong-il "He then called for the establishment of a restaurant specialising in Italian food," Kim Sang-soon told the Choson Sinbo. The pro-North Korean newspaper said the restaurant, which imports its flour, butter and cheese from Italy, had been busy since opening in December. Many customers were trying Italian food for the first time. "I knew well from television and publications that pizza and spaghetti are world famous food, but it is the first time that I've tasted it," said one diner, Jong Un-suk. Pyongyang already has a successful fried chicken outlet, opened in 2007 and, its owners say, taking £1,000 a day. Food aid Last year, chefs were flown to Naples and Rome to learn how to create authentic pizzas and pasta dishes, returning to North Korea to perfect them through "trial and error", said Kim Sang-soon. But it is possible the new restaurant has been at least a decade in the planning. Italian chef Ermanno Furlanis was flown to North Korea in 1997 along with special pizza ovens. In 2004, he described to the BBC how he had given lessons to three army officers who took copious notes and asked detailed questions such as how far apart olives should be placed on each pizza. Mr Furlanis said Kim Jong-il may even have visited one of the training sessions, being held on a ship anchored offshore. "I am not in the position to say whether it really was him, but our chef, who had no reason to fib, was, for the space of several minutes, utterly speechless," Mr Furlanis said. "He said he felt as if he had seen God, and I still envy him this experience." It is, however, unlikely that many ordinary people will be able to eat in the new restaurant. North Korea is among the world's poorest countries, relying on international food aid to feed its people. According to the World Food Programme, up to nine million North Koreans were facing urgent food shortages this winter.

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I haven't watched the first poster's video yet but I will... this shit fascinates me. Have any of you seen the one Lisa Ling did on National Geographic? Here is the first part, and you can watch each subsequent part from there on youtube if you want. It's really interesting. It's crazy how much shorter and lighter they are than South Koreans due to their malnutrtion, and how the citizens are not allowed to have cell phones... I think most of them don't even know what one is.

My favorite part is when she asks a local family how they would react if their Dear Leader made a mistake or was wrong about something, and they just stare at her in total confusion because Kim Jong Il is not capable of being wrong about anything in their eyes.

Edit: and speaking about eyes, they bring in a foreign doctor to perform eye surgery on like 1000 people in a couple of days who have their condition because of a lack of nutrition, and after the procedure all of the people bow down to and praise the Dear Leader for giving them the ability to see... fucking irony at it's best.

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Originally posted by The17sss My favorite part is when she asks a local family how they would react if their Dear Leader made a mistake or was wrong about something, and they just stare at her in total confusion because Kim Jong Il is not capable of being wrong about anything in their eyes.

This begs the question of who would win a chess match between Kim Jong Il and Chuck Norris.

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Originally posted by Shakka This begs the question of who would win a chess match between Kim Jong Il and Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris is teh man!

Chuck Norris CAN divide by a zero!

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Interesting, although it's nothing I haven't already learned though through the numerous, other, controlled tours that journalists are allowed in N.K.

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Originally posted by robstar I see that they have a website, http://www.korea-dpr.com/ ( Welcome to the Official Webpage of The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)) lol I browsed the forum for a bit and there's quite a few people that wants to move and live there.

What a joke! For those who have read them briefly and not noticed that something's amiss, look closer. For instance, check out this thread on the KPA being ordered to be combat-ready.

Look at the poster's names and countries of origin: Lindsay Black (UK), Bjornar Simonsen (Norway), Michael Lawrence Shaw (PR China), Emanuel Cesar da Costa Tejerin (Brazil), etc. Not one from North Korea.

OK, no big deal, you say. But have you read what they wrote? Everyone refers to the US as "the imperialists", talk about defending the "motherland", etc. Seems like either these people are really from those places and just love NK so much that they would rather refer to it as the "motherland" than their own countries, or we actually have North Koreans here posing as people from other countries, in an artificially created forum with artificial conversations, to put the DPRK in a positive light.

I.e., it seems that the forum itself is a propaganda tactic.

My favourite post (& reply) from that thread:

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By: Bjornar Simonsen Country: Norway Position: International Counselor Some imperialist media also speculated that the DPRK's position to defend the country now that the South Korean Lee-Myung Bak clique government are pressuring for war, was solely to impress money out of Barack Obama. The sad thing is, that people actually listen to this kind of epic journalist disaster. The truth is, nobody can invade the DPRK, nobody can put pressure on DPRK, nobody can interfere with DPRK unless they are prepared to face the consequences. Most importantly, DPRK is invincible.

Hm, so Bjornar from Norway thinks DPRK is invincible!!1 And the immediate reply:

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Dermot Hudson Country: United Kingdom Position: OD in United Kingdom Good comment Bjornar I agree with you

Good to know that the Brits agree with the Norwegians on that one.

Final point. Try to post anything in that forum without getting a "wrong password" error. Can anyone see how to actually register on the forum, since I can't?

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Originally posted by Spam Interesting, although it's nothing I haven't already learned though through the numerous, other, controlled tours that journalists are allowed in N.K.

True. Its always interesting to watch them though.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/ - hmm. Interesting site I found on this.

Here we go again.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090429.../us_korea_north

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^yeah. shit's ridiculous. i wonder if fromabove was onto something when he said ww3 will involve nk

i've seen 2 documentaries about nk in the past and i have to say THE FUCKING MASS GAMES IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE, MARVELOUS, & AMAZING. SHIT I WISH I COULD DO GYMNASTICS. THOSE 12-13 YEAR OLD GIRLS MAKE ME WANNA CRY. THE ARIRANG FESTIVAL IS INSANE TOO.

but aside from the awesomeness, it must suck fucking ass having to live under the reign of kim. you either show him respect or it's the shooting squad for you.

nk is interesting though. since it hasn't been strongly effected by outside sources, it's like witnessing what the past was like while in the present

Last edited by wing on May-01-2009 at 08:47