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idoru
You Can Call Me Al



Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

quote:
Originally posted by bas
"Les DJ Inns"

edit // People have been doing this for quite a while, I didn't see a thread like this when Mark Knight released "Man With The Red Face".

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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I did:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&highlight=face


Oh yeah I even posted in those threads. Yay beer!

Oh wait no I didn't :/

*slowly walks away from internets*


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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
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*slowly walks away from internets*

With a red face?

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bas
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Clearly


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Dan1584
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They sound nothing alike




This is a bit much... how could this happen?


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
They sound nothing alike




This is a bit much... how could this happen?



because the guitar sound is a preset on i think either an alesis or a korg digital synth- my friend has the keyboard at his house and we were going through it and then oh shit, trentemoller sound hahaha


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MoBreakz
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hmmm...
The track is labled virtually the same as the Trentemoller remix of the Djuma Soundsystem track. "Les Djinns". So I dont think they are trying to hide plagairism, maybe its a remix of sorts mislabled as original mix...perhaps a mistake on beatports part?

And this isnt quite plagiarism...its Sampling (what Timbaland does). And we dont know the business side of whether the sample is cleared or not.


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quote:
Originally posted by MoBreakz
hmmm...
The track is labled virtually the same as the Trentemoller remix of the Djuma Soundsystem track. "Les Djinns". So I dont think they are trying to hide plagairism, maybe its a remix of sorts mislabled as original mix...perhaps a mistake on beatports part?

And this isnt quite plagiarism...its Sampling (what Timbaland does). And we dont know the business side of whether the sample is cleared or not.

We're arguing creativity not legality.

Why not sample the track, change it to make it your own then name it something else? Why not label it as Djumma Soundsystem - Les Djinn (Some remix)? What's the point of taking the track verbatim (is that the word? verbeatim maybe ) and label it something like Le DJ Inns?


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MoBreakz
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quote:
Originally posted by bas
We're arguing creativity not legality.

Why not sample the track, change it to make it your own then name it something else? Why not label it as Djumma Soundsystem - Les Djinn (Some remix)? What's the point of taking the track verbatim (is that the word? verbeatim maybe ) and label it something like Le DJ Inns?


Even though the track is not a good example, flipping a sample smartly or in an intersting way is a creative as anything in making music. I guess the status quo in EDM is if a producer uses a sample, he is less creative? I can see he abused the sample, and his track is shit, but if it was used it in a smart way and his track was actually good, I wouldnt have a problem with the creativity side. But thats not what the thread is discussing, its mostly discussing plagiarism, which this track is not plagiarism, because we dont know enough about the track. Its a poor remix and poor sample usage, and the mislabling is throwing people off.


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RJT
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Who gave MoBreakz his old user name back?


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MoBreakz
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well my lionslair handle is still on hiatus, so i have to log in to my older handle to share ideas with fellow EDM listeners.
im guessing that gets your panties in a twist?


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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by MoBreakz

well my lionslair handle is still on hiatus, so i have to log in to my older handle to share ideas with fellow EDM listeners.
im guessing that gets your panties in a twist?



"hiatus" is that what the kids are calling banned these days?


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