then know, with 20-30 mins a day, it's going to take you a while to figure this out

djing is all about time spent behind the decks, every time i play i learn a little something new, how to eq better, beatmatch a little bit faster and read the crowd

i can say it's almost like how pilots rate their experience with hours logged

other things come into play as well, like if you have a musical background or not

and about learning to mix with no eq, it's a valuable skill to learn, you learn to pick tracks better, ones that won't clash, your sets will develop better flow

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Originally posted by Fl@k Monkey Bam-O! Right on the nose! Props to you Ryan.. Listen to this man, he knows what his on about.

+1

You have to know when to EQ and when not to. It completely depends on the song, where in the song you mix, how you mix, ect.

sometimes it helps to visualize the freq spectrum. if you notice both tracks have a ton of low end, you know there will be a massive spike in lows, so you eq. watch for stacking of gain in every part and overall of both tracks at once you should do pretty well.

Yeah, you should be able to mix without EQ.
I prefer to look at EQ as more of a creative tool rather than a core mixing skill. Bassline swap over etc. dropping out/in vocals and melodies and even the handling of clashing keys if you choose to go down that route.

However the situation you describe is not related to EQ and sounds to me like more of a beat matching issue. When you have trained your ear and your skill you will find that it just seems to stop happening so definitely keep practicing.

As a side note, be wary of how your music sounds when you make EQ adjustments especially in the higher end as it can make things sound very odd indeed until you get to grips with it. Whilst you will find tweaks to bass frequencies will sound obvious, the high end stuff can sound obviously wrong. In a lot of cases you won’t notice this during your mixing session, but if you are to record them and listen back there will be things that you just didn’t hear.

It is also a really good idea to record as much as possible as it is a great way of becoming more aware of your skill level. It is also a good idea to compare mixes every 6 months or so, as you will find that something you thought sounded awesome at the time can end up sounding pretty shit and makes you wonder why the hell you thought it was so great. It’s natural when you are progressing.

I personally use the EQs a lot but then I have been beat matching for a while now and file I am at a level where I’m not covering anything up.

Practice and find out what works for you is my advice.

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aint that the truth, although where I want to be constantly shifts as I learn more so its probably an unattainable goal to be satisfied with what I'm doing

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Here's one I did live at a club with a Rane 2016, with no EQ's at all on the mixer (so I couldn't cheat): Live at Rise Part 10-7-2007, Part 1 (right click, save as...)

got a tracklist? just started listening and i REALLY like what i'm hearing.

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grr... can't find one off hand

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Originally posted by skip got a tracklist? just started listening and i REALLY like what i'm hearing.

How do you know if you are spiking different levels? Are there any rules? I guess if both low eqs are on full (12oclock) on "full" volume this would be considered as spiking the level? Should both eqs combined always equal 100%? For example, if the oncoming track is at 25% should you bring the current track down to 75% to avoid spiking?

I know.....I'm a noob.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Thanks... grr... can't find one off hand

if you find the tracklist, then please post it. would love to know some of those tracks.



same goes for Zild's August 2007 Mix. top stuff, would love to get a tracklist of that too.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt How do you know if you are spiking different levels? Are there any rules? I guess if both low eqs are on full (12oclock) on "full" volume this would be considered as spiking the level? Should both eqs combined always equal 100%? For example, if the oncoming track is at 25% should you bring the current track down to 75% to avoid spiking? I know.....I'm a noob.

It helps if you have a Master VU you can look at other than that you have to use your ears. Really what you're trying to accomplish is turning up the song that you are bringing in a little bit while you turn down the song you're taking out a little bit. I usually use the gains for this as I prefer knobs to faders but as you can imagine I sit there for a few minutes gradually turning one up in minute amounts while I turn the other one down at the same time.

Skip. I'll try to find that tracklist hopefully I wrote it out and saved it.

Here it is.

Zidan Style, Chaim & K300 - Bedolff
Chaim - Besides
Chaim - Alvarado
Chaim - Popsky
Guy Gerber & Chaim - Beaches
Guy J - Self Love
Namito & Eyerer - Quipa
Chaim - Under My Skin
Minilogue - Inca
Stephan Bodzin - Treibsand
Marc Romboy & Stephan Bodzin - Callisto

I was just getting started unfortunately CDs don't hold enough space, so I had to make it short.

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Last edited by Zild on Jul-23-2008 at 15:48

ok so since people are posting noob questions im gonna ask mine . when i turn the gain to 0 on my mixer i can still hear the track pretty loud on my headphones...is this supposed to happen? or is it just my crap mixer?