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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Don't even begin to lump me in the doomsday group. I'm rather skeptic of what some old farts dressed in blue sitting in their lodges wrote centuries ago. Fuck, even Masons think they're nuts. Even students of the esoteric, at least the intelligent ones, have strong rationalists leaning are not fucking dupes. Stargazing and astrological motifs are not a pass time I engage in. I have more important things to do than waste my time on irrelevant crap like that. I like sticking to observable reality governed by the laws of physics.

I've studied several doomsday scenarios and am not all that convinced about it, either.

I do find it interesting that the Vatican has a sculpture of a broken Earth with a comet stuck in the side of it, though



If that scares anyone, definitely don't watch this:


Ever heard of the Cross of Hendaye?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I thought you just smoked a joint and were chilled out as you didn't go in to your usual fits of JREF rage .

haha! look, im the first to admit im no saint. i really respect some of the users on here that conduct themselves with such maturity and dignity on a music forum. but fuck, its politics. people have been murdering and torturing people over politics since forever, so i dont think a rude tone on a forum is all that bad in comparison

but i dont think that the eternally-condescending tones of the CT peddlers are any better i try to give the rest of the users in this forum some respect, even if i fail at times. but we all have our cross to bear

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Originally posted by Sunsnail People often mock what they find silly

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha! look, im the first to admit im no saint. i really respect some of the users on here that conduct themselves with such maturity and dignity on a music forum. but fuck, its politics. people have been murdering and torturing people over politics since forever, so i dont think a rude tone on a forum is all that bad in comparison but i dont think that the eternally-condescending tones of the CT peddlers are any better i try to give the rest of the users in this forum some respect, even if i fail at times. but we all have our cross to bear

I actually have JREF bookmarked, at one point it was even in my bookmarks tool bar . The only reason why I didn't register was as I wouldn't be able to copy / paste their "intellectual property" posts with out the consent of the user, one of the terms you had to agree to before you could sign up .

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Originally posted by Trancer-X I've studied several doomsday scenarios and am not all that convinced about it, either. I do find it interesting that the Vatican has a sculpture of a broken Earth with a comet stuck in the side of it, though Ever heard of the Cross of Hendaye?

The Vatican are definitely a weird bunch.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z The Vatican are definitely a weird bunch.

They apparently enjoy displaying their symbolism for everyone, too...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21083377@N05/2088335118

http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Exte...isk/Obelisk.htm

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z The Vatican are definitely a weird bunch.

That whole area in fact is frankly scary....in a prophetic scary type of way..

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Originally posted by Sunsnail People often mock what they find silly

I think it's a show of ignorance and naivete more than anything else.

If you understood how fierce the lobbyists, corporations, and corrupt politicians can be in achieving their own ends you probably wouldn't find it so silly.

The major ISP's haven't exactly been paying teams of lobbyists and lawyers large sums of money to press for this because they expect to be defeated. The United States Telecom Association spent $27,000,000 on lobbyists alone in 2005. How much do you think the people are giving their lobbyists to fight them? Oh yeah, nevermind, we the people don't have lobbyists.

I guess you can't exactly wake someone up if they're only pretending to be asleep.

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Originally posted by LazFX That whole area in fact is frankly scary....in a prophetic scary type of way..

Do you know what the part of my state (Maryland) that Washington, D.C. now resides in used to be called?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Ever heard of the Cross of Hendaye?

What what what!?!!

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