I swear, we need to get all the TA's together and go inhabit some obscure little file sharing location where things are limited to trance/electronic music. A guy can dream...

Anyway, basicly it's the major labels (Universal, Sony, WEA, BMG, EMD) that are throwing their fits and causing the RIAA to send out their attack dogs (and by the way, most of these companies operate OUTSIDE of America also, so calm down with all the America hate).

It's true, whatever gets shut down, another takes its place. The unfortunate thing is eventually the RIAA will come up with a steep punishment that will scare prospective sites away. Then again, there's always FTP sharing like in pre-Napster times. Another problem is popularity. Once one of these sites gets popular, they become an instant target for the RIAA. Another thing - record companies like to claim that MP3's are ruining the artist's livlihood, yet they neglect to mention that its generally the profits of the record companies that are suffering, not the artists.

Personally, I think the music industry had this coming. I mean, come on... $20 for a domestic CD? Give me a break. Cassettes stayed around the same price for almost their entire shelflife whereas the price of CD's has doubled. It's good old-fashioned greed. Artists weren't suffering when prices were $10, why should they be suffering so much now? Plus, I really can't sympathize with these big marquee artists who make more in one year than I probably will in my lifetime. And I'm supposed to feel sorry that they only made 2 million this year instead of 2.5? get real. Smaller artists benefit more from the exposure, so it's the big ones causing all the fuss.

My uncle is a solicitor (soon to qualify as a judge) and is very into his trance music. I'll be interested to see what he has to say on it all.

I should see him within the next week, so I'll let you guys know.

Before we got the internet, I wasn't really into music. Any music, not even cheese. I'd only ever bothered buying a few CDs. When I discovered Napster and then Audiogalaxy, I began to take a real interest in music, and since then I have actually started to buy music. I can't be the only person who has been introduced into music through the internet.

People who leech MP3s and never buy the CDs wouldn't buy the CDs anyway, and too many people are sick of buying albums for £15 to find they only like 2 of the songs. What's wrong with trying before you buy.

Last edited by evil_bastard on May-26-2002 at 08:10

I swear, we need to get all the TA's together and go inhabit some obscure little file sharing location where things are limited to trance/electronic music. A guy can dream...

Anyway, basicly it's the major labels (Universal, Sony, WEA, BMG, EMD) that are throwing their fits and causing the RIAA to send out their attack dogs (and by the way, most of these companies operate OUTSIDE of America also, so calm down with all the America hate).

It's true, whatever gets shut down, another takes its place. The unfortunate thing is eventually the RIAA will come up with a steep punishment that will scare prospective sites away. Then again, there's always FTP sharing like in pre-Napster times. Another problem is popularity. Once one of these sites gets popular, they become an instant target for the RIAA. Another thing - record companies like to claim that MP3's are ruining the artist's livlihood, yet they neglect to mention that its generally the profits of the record companies that are suffering, not the artists.

Personally, I think the music industry had this coming. I mean, come on... $20 for a domestic CD? Give me a break. Cassettes stayed around the same price for almost their entire shelflife whereas the price of CD's has doubled. It's good old-fashioned greed. Artists weren't suffering when prices were $10, why should they be suffering so much now? Plus, I really can't sympathize with these big marquee artists who make more in one year than I probably will in my lifetime. And I'm supposed to feel sorry that they only made 2 million this year instead of 2.5? get real. Smaller artists benefit more from the exposure, so it's the big ones causing all the fuss.

Damn wankers! Damn fucking wankers!!

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oh no, here we go again... another pointless lawsuit that will drag on for ages and come to no conclusion... sad, RIAA, very sad...

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eDonkey, guys! eDonkey!

Take a look at www.sharereactor.com . They release movies, games, apps etc and release them onto the eDonkey filesharing network, which is completely RIAA-proof. They then post links on their site which automatically add the files to your queue. Nothing anyone can do about the site as it is not offering the material.

Somebody set up a similar site for trance, house and breakbeat!

Incidentally... I for one would totally use a service offering single 192kbps downloads at £1 a pop. That sounds like a fair price. But £6 a single is *not* fair on DJs. We never have any money! Record companies are evil.

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Originally posted by Sly One Incidentally... I for one would totally use a service offering single 192kbps downloads at £1 a pop. That sounds like a fair price. But £6 a single is *not* fair on DJs. We never have any money! Record companies are evil.

This is a perfectly viable solution, as a kind of Download-Shop for mp3... it could still function over a P2P network, but with proper reinforcing to make sure all music was high quality etc.

Does anybody have the knowledge of how the price of an average CD single breaks down? I mean, how much goes back to the artist, and how much to publishing, record companies etc.?

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Why pay when you can get it for free somewhere else?

The problem is that this is what most people think, wether they want to admit it or not.

This sucks

Oh well time to move om to the next p2p program. THEY WILL NEVER STOP US muhahahah

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Jeg tager bare større bider end andre.

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Originally posted by evil_bastard Before we got the internet, I wasn't really into music. Any music, not even cheese. I'd only ever bothered buying a few CDs. When I discovered Napster and then Audiogalaxy, I began to take a real interest in music, and since then I have actually started to buy music. I can't be the only person who has been introduced into music through the internet.

hehe I am almost exactly the same! I download a lot of stuff but I can't see them on cds anywhere and I have bought so many cds the last couple of years my mum cracks it at me because she reckons I'm wasting my money! I never had much of an interest in music before either! So you are not alone evil_bastard!

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no need to worry

if they do, and they eventually will, shut down AG, we'll just switch over to direct connect seeing as it is the best compared to AG. but i really do like AG and i'd hate to see it go

Ag is the easist program i have ever dloaded with.. hate to see it go

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