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Originally posted by Q5echo i'm not emotional. just pointing out how ridiculously ignorant you are.

If it makes you feel better

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again, youre locking yourself into definitions that, one, are completely subjective. two, using said subjective definitions wrongly in an objective sense. just dumb dude. pure f**king arrogant stupidity a paramilitary group can be any armed groups not officially considered a national military force. this is not new to anybody. you though, apparently. your county's SWAT team is a paramilitary group. Al Queera in Afghanistan is a paramilitary group. Al Queera in Iraq is a paramilitary group. Al Queera has ranks. they train in weapons and tactics and actively engage other military organizations from Pakistan to Indonesia to the Arabian peninsula. they actively recruit from around the world. IOW Al Queera owns you...if only in an intellectual sense.

Well, I disagree. I'm sorry for you if anyone who disagrees with you is arrogant, stupid, mypoic, whatever words you like to throw around..

Al-Qaida has taken on a semblance of a para-military, but is not in and of itself a para-military force. So what if they have weapons expertise? Al-Qaida in Iraq was not a para-military force. It was a criminal one. They attacked both Sunnis and Shiites using terrorism as their main weapon. Additionally, just because local terrorists or rebel groups take on the name Al-Qaida does not mean Al-Qaida itself is para-military group. It is a brand name, and still, a terrorist group. Criminals.

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tell that to the Columbians shitbrick. or the Phillipinos. or a 19 year old Marine corporal in Diyala.

The Columbians? You must be talking about the FARC, a CRIMINAL GROUP. They long forgot their ideological roots. They were primarily concerned with drug/weapons trafficking..

And what about the Philippians. You hardliners have far too rosy a picture of your heavy handed tactics. Terrorist groups are still operating in the Philippians AND Malaysia AND Indonesia.

Diyala? You must be referring to the surge. Get this, without the Sunni Awakening and the Sadr Militias's standdown, the surge would not have done a damn thing. Al-Qaida in Iraq is a terrorist criminal group. It was not heavy handed "surge" force that put them on the run. It was the Iraqi rejection of Al-Qaida.

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jerZ07002 I'm siding with Q on the notion that you are stuck in a historical view of warfare (not the ignorant dipshit part though). I don't see us seeing eye to eye on this one. Funny thing, you just called Hamdan a 'soldier'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a soldier is a military personnel.

Agree to disagree.

I didn't call Hamdan a soldier. I meant by "lowly foot soldiers", a low level operative.

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This system is such a fucking failure. I still don't understand why we don't trust our own justice system enough to try these people in our courts.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

OMG who gave him the gas to drive that car??!!! Lets invade his village, pin him down and fly him and try him in some island half way accross the world!! Lets fight terrorism!!