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LKD
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funniest line today at V fest was while chatting with burridge about digital mixing vs. vinyl (as he mentioend that he thinks he doesnt want to do vinyl at big festivals anymore), he goes "Computer mixing is like fucking with a condom.....theres not alot of feeling there"...lol


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knacker
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quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Richie is so far past the limitations of final scratch now...it's incredible that he designed it, yet now he's outgrown even his own technology.


ahhh, Richie didn't design Final Scratch by any means -- he was hired by the company (along with John Aquaviva) before they were sold to Stanton to help promote it and make slight changes to the software interface to better suit the needs of the mix dj...

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E2EK1EL
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quote:
Originally posted by knacker
ahhh, Richie didn't design Final Scratch by any means -- he was hired by the company (along with John Aquaviva) before they were sold to Stanton to help promote it and make slight changes to the software interface to better suit the needs of the mix dj...


Correct sir!

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quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
"Computer mixing is like fucking with a condom.....theres not alot of feeling there"

So, extending that analogy, it's therefore stupid and possibly life-threatening to play on unfamiliar or anonymous turntables?


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LKD
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So, extending that analogy, it's therefore stupid and possibly life-threatening to play on unfamiliar or anonymous turntables?


or a much safer deal doing computer mixing..haha...

anyway...lee is working on a new bunch of tracks now....w00t...finally something new from him


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LKD
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if u really think about it, besides the beatmatching factor,

we evolved from vinyl where all u see is the vinyl itself and have no idea how much time u have before the next mix (just an estimate looking at how close the needle is to the spindle) and that was solved with CDJs

They started adding BPM counters on mixers rounded to the closest integer so the dj would spend less time beatmatching by having a rough estimate how off he/she was with the vinyl.

Then with CDJs, they included BPM counters. and instant updates on them based on the pitch factor.

any purist that disses on computer mixing (if they are a dj..else they can just shut it) should question if they ever used any of these tools and not lie to themselves that they dont. If they do, thats in essence, computer assistance.


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VDub
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God you're tiresome.
Get with it. No one is disrespecting Mills here, the man is brilliant. But to deny that what Richie is doing is techno is a bit ridiculous.The only thing worse than a hipster minimalist like Richie is someone like you who can't embrace or appreciate technology.


Skipper this is for you...


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Although I love Richie and everything he's done, he gets way too much credit for certain technologies...

This set up is not completely groundbreaking... Chris Liebing and Speedy J have been doing this for well over a year now (2 laptops -- one with Traktor running 4 decks, and the other running Abelton, to add effects, builds etc.)

Personally, I think part of the reason he's getting away from beatmatching is because he's going deaf.


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LKD
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quote:
Originally posted by knacker
Although I love Richie and everything he's done, he gets way too much credit for certain technologies...

This set up is not completely groundbreaking... Chris Liebing and Speedy J have been doing this for well over a year now (2 laptops -- one with Traktor running 4 decks, and the other running Abelton, to add effects, builds etc.)

its the same with when sasha was promoting ableton back in 2005 how everyone thought it was the most amazing concept djing with it while several djs were using it for years in live gigs previously...namely Rennie Pilgrim, BT, so on and so forth..

Traktor's lately been shunned off as a kiddy tool in comparison with ableton, hence the need for someone like hawtin to do a little talk about functionality.

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Personally, I think part of the reason he's getting away from beatmatching is because he's going deaf.


its not the question of beatmatching anymore...i dont know why people still bring this up. beatmatching is a thing of the past.


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.alot of times it misunderstands and gives some wierd bpm count...


you can still use traktor exactly like cdj's when syncing fails.
i set up two buttons on the keyboard for play/pause and cue, and two more for pitch up/down

the looping on traktor is the best feature, no wonder hes so good at it.

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TheNeonAlien
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I had to stop watching......just too crazy! the guy is not a dj


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