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airwalker1
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quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
The point of a remix is to show the remixers' view of it, how he/she/they feel the track should sound and be like, no matter whether the remix is similar or something totally different to the original.
to true but i still think remixs are a waste of time because why spend all that effert on some one's track that was not made by your own hand's and try to conect to there interpretathion of the orignal. dont get me rong i love the insperathion of a track enough to want and put my own inprint of the track ive heard,this often leads to anougher persons idea of what it should be, not what i wanted to get from the remix in the first place.

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Age of Love - Age Of Love(Emmanuel Top Mix). Only the bassline is used, and it's warped/filtered so it's barely recognizable. In fact this remix is minimal, years before minimal became popular(1997 or so).

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SYSTEM-J
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to true but i still think remixs are a waste of time...


Yeah, and you're a fucking clown. The amount of great music that wouldn't exist if nobody made remixes is colossal. It's that simple.


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kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Veracocha - Carte Blanche.

Wtf.


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DJ Patski
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Lighthouse Family - Ocean Drive (Blue Amazon Dub)

A three minute pop song becomes a seventeen minute epic and the only bit they used from the original was a snatch of vocal texture that was put through a stutter.


That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.

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That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.


That's a good point.

I think in the past 5 years a lot of producers have forgotten or disregarded the whole point of a remix.

There are a lot of remixes which are basically original, one-off tracks with the original vocal or drum beat slapped on top, which entirely defeats the purpose of the remix.

A great example of a remix for me is Fuzzy Hair's version of Mousse T's Right About Now, of which he has used almost every original element, twisted, mashed, filtered, chopped and distorted to produce something entirely reconisable as a derivative of the original, yet creative and unique at the same time.

Another example is his remix of that god-awful track Nasty Girls by Inaya Day, which he somehow made palatable.

To answer your question, the only real difference between sampling a remixing is:

a) Whether the "remixer" approaches the artist after using the sample to request clearance or whether the remixer is approached and asked to use a song for "remixing".

b) The amount of material used for the second track. If it's minimal, it's "sampled", but if it's a lot, it's a "remix". A "sampled" track generally only uses small snippets of one or two elements, i.e a bass line, vocal or drum loop, while a remix might use long sections of all elements of the track.


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That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.


Simple. When the original artist pays the producer for his work, it's a remix. When the producer has to pay the original artist to use part of his track, it's a sample.


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My vote will always be for the Rapid Eye mix of 'Der Schieber'

Good, but not a sniff of similarity to the original.

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kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Veracocha - Carte Blanche.

Wtf.

...what about it?


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Deadmau5's abortion of a remix of Finished Symphony


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...what about it?

....the remix fucking sucks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndxEmjZztks


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Yeah, and you're a fucking clown. The amount of great music that wouldn't exist if nobody made remixes is colossal. It's that simple.
er right time that should of been made making goood tracks in the first place. so no not a clown.

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