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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Rockefeller is a Nazi. Who sits is the honorary Chairman and founder of the CFR? Who is honorary Charmain and founder of the Trilateral Commission? Who hand a helping hand in Hitler's rise to power? Who supplied I G Farben with military technology?

First of all, David Rockefeller served in WWII... for the Americans. So your revisionist history is frankly appalling.

Second, you've done nothing to prove any nefarious activity on behalf of any of those organizations. Your fear of them is amusing however, if a little sad that someone with your supposed intellect is subject to such paranoia.

In any case, why are you piling on more conspiracies here? I thought your issue was with the Council on Foreign Relations? Do you really have no proof that it's an evil organization? Because you're painting in such broad brush strokes that it's impossible to figure out what you're even alleging.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov You're going to have to do better than a youtube video to prove the CFR is a nefarious institution. For God's sake, have you ever read Foreign Affairs? All members do is bicker with one another. Everyone's an armchair expert these days - you don't have an iota of experience with CFR yet you're suddenly convinced that what you saw in a video linking the group to Illuminati is gospel? And I wondered why people don't take you seriously anymore...

Meh, who cares if relative strangers don't take me seriously?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Meh, who cares if relative strangers don't take me seriously?

Are you trying to persuade anyone in this discussion or not?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov First of all, David Rockefeller served in WWII... for the Americans. So your revisionist history is frankly appalling. Second, you've done nothing to prove any nefarious activity on behalf of any of those organizations. Your fear of them is amusing however, if a little sad that someone with your supposed intellect is subject to such paranoia. In any case, why are you piling on more conspiracies here? I thought your issue was with the Council on Foreign Relations? Do you really have no proof that it's an evil organization? Because you're painting in such broad brush strokes that it's impossible to figure out what you're even alleging.

I'm alleging that family agendas don't die. The Bushes, Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Co. have been at the helm of controlling this planet for a long time.

It was incorrect of me to assert that it was D. Rockefeller was behind the Standard Oil/Farben partnership, however he controls Exxon.

Prescott Bush was a nazi supporter, so was Rockefellers father.. why am I perceived to be so crazy to assume that their agenda lives on through poorly disguised media influence and geopolitical control?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Are you trying to persuade anyone in this discussion or not?

No one is interested, obviously.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} I'm alleging that family agendas don't die. The Bushes, Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Co. have been at the helm of controlling this planet for a long time. It was incorrect of me to assert that it was D. Rockefeller was behind the Standard Oil/Farben partnership, however he controls Exxon. Prescott Bush was a nazi supporter, so was Rockefellers father.. why am I perceived to be so crazy to assume that their agenda lives on through poorly disguised media influence and geopolitical control?

Because both of my parents voted for Bush and I voted for Kerry?

edit: is this really all you have for "proof" that the CFR is some sort of evil secret society? That his dad gave money to Nazi Germany? Surely you can do better than that, yes?

This makes the "Obama pals around with terrorists" insinuation seem rock solid.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov First of all, David Rockefeller served in WWII... for the Americans. So your revisionist history is frankly appalling. Second, you've done nothing to prove any nefarious activity on behalf of any of those organizations. Your fear of them is amusing however, if a little sad that someone with your supposed intellect is subject to such paranoia. In any case, why are you piling on more conspiracies here? I thought your issue was with the Council on Foreign Relations? Do you really have no proof that it's an evil organization? Because you're painting in such broad brush strokes that it's impossible to figure out what you're even alleging.

lol, I'm not afraid, my man. I'm interested in them.. they've had a good run at things.

What I'm painting is the picture that a man like D. Rockefeller has hearty roots in Eugenics, and is at top of these 'harmless' organisations. When some of the most powerful men in the world come from racist, fascist families, shouldn't you be skeptical of their words and ambitions?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Because both of my parents voted for Bush and I voted for Kerry?

Two members of a secret society, eh.. that election was jokes.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Two members of a secret society, eh.. that election was jokes.

You're so detached from reality, it's frightening.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} lol, I'm not afraid, my man. I'm interested in them.. they've had a good run at things. What I'm painting is the picture that a man like D. Rockefeller has hearty roots in Eugenics, and is at top of these 'harmless' organisations. When some of the most powerful men in the world come from racist, fascist families, shouldn't you be skeptical of their words and ambitions?

The fact that his father gave money to Nazi Germany now means that David Rockefeller supports eugenics? What, did he plan the Holocaust while he was serving the US in North Africa as well?

Obama's mother is descended from slave owners... ancestors can incriminate anyone if you let them. Each person is his or her own individual, regardless of the "guilt by association" cards you like to play.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov You're so detached from reality, it's frightening.

I was just thinking the same thing about you

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} I was just thinking the same thing about you

Honestly, because you have me really intrigued by all this, correct me if I'm wrong.

You believe that the Council on Foreign Relations is an evil secret society bent on creating some sort of one-world government (that would totally be terrible). This belief is founded on the following evidence: David Rockefeller, former head of the CFR, is also the founder of the Trilateral Commission, which we know next to nothing about. This Commission stems from the Bilderberg Group, which we do know is nothing more than a discussion group of world leaders. BUT, that group was created by two Nazis among 128 other founding members, so it's evil too.

PLUS, David Rockefeller's father may have donated money to Nazi Germany, which supported eugenics and the Holocaust.

By association, then, David Rockefeller is a Nazi, and so is the CFR agenda.

Is that accurate?

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