Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Music Discussion > Armin van Buuren's productions
Pages (7): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Neo95gt
Suspended User



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: NJ

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated


Sorry for the attack John - it was more in jest than anything, as I own plenty of your tracks and have paid to see you DJ on several occasions, as you are someone I respect greatly.

I'm glad my criticism drew you out of the woodwork, because I've been wondering about your reasoning behind compression/mastering for quite a while.

While I fully understand and appreciate your explanation, it doesn't make home listening any less frustrating when one listens to a very clean, minimal Israeli-style production, such as Ace Ventura or Zen Mechanics, and can hear every small detail perfectly, then immediately after listens to a production such as yours, where the depth of sound and melody is maximal, and even though you're fully aware that there are fantastic elements in there, they can get drowned out at times and you feel like you're missing out on something.

In regards to making music "for clubs and festivals", rather than the radio, again I can appreciate and respect that, but there are quite a few producers who never aimed to be played on radio, yet manage to achieve a sound that's clear as a bell on both tinny home systems and booming club rigs, even with an abundance of layers.

I think Simon Posford is a good example of this. He uses an incredible amount of layers in his work yet still manages to maintain a crisp sound.

Finally, I just want to re-iterate the fact that this is not a personal attack or harsh critisicm of your work. I'm fully aware that I could never achieve what you have, musically or technically, and that it's lofty to make such criticisms without your own ability to back it up.

I do enjoy your music greatly, otherwise I wouldn't buy it - all I'm expressing is a frustration that such great music could be made even greater (personal preference, I know), yet there is a conscious effort not to do this.


bro, I didn't think the "fuck you" was necessary.

I always wondered how insane it would be to see someone on the internet tell you off because they don't like your track or something, that must be weird.

Old Post Oct-29-2008 00:57  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Neo95gt Click here to Send Neo95gt a Private Message Add Neo95gt to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
John 00 Fleming
tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2005
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated


Sorry for the attack John - it was more in jest than anything, as I own plenty of your tracks and have paid to see you DJ on several occasions, as you are someone I respect greatly.

I'm glad my criticism drew you out of the woodwork, because I've been wondering about your reasoning behind compression/mastering for quite a while.

While I fully understand and appreciate your explanation, it doesn't make home listening any less frustrating when one listens to a very clean, minimal Israeli-style production, such as Ace Ventura or Zen Mechanics, and can hear every small detail perfectly, then immediately after listens to a production such as yours, where the depth of sound and melody is maximal, and even though you're fully aware that there are fantastic elements in there, they can get drowned out at times and you feel like you're missing out on something.

In regards to making music "for clubs and festivals", rather than the radio, again I can appreciate and respect that, but there are quite a few producers who never aimed to be played on radio, yet manage to achieve a sound that's clear as a bell on both tinny home systems and booming club rigs, even with an abundance of layers.

I think Simon Posford is a good example of this. He uses an incredible amount of layers in his work yet still manages to maintain a crisp sound.

Finally, I just want to re-iterate the fact that this is not a personal attack or harsh critisicm of your work. I'm fully aware that I could never achieve what you have, musically or technically, and that it's lofty to make such criticisms without your own ability to back it up.

I do enjoy your music greatly, otherwise I wouldn't buy it - all I'm expressing is a frustration that such great music could be made even greater (personal preference, I know), yet there is a conscious effort not to do this.


Hey no offense taken, don't worry. It's impossible to keep everyone happy and criticism is something an artist gets used too
It's also got me back on this forum
I know what you mean and it's something I've listened too and addressed with my material (due for release in 2009). I always make music for the 'gaps' in my set when I can't find from others, and it's meant for the dancefloor for me me personally...that eventually get released. I have also been touring like crazy the past few years, so never get the time to do a second CD/Radio mixdown. i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious. I have no idea how someone like Armin finds time to work in the studio, he works so hard with weekly radio show etc?!

As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!

Old Post Oct-29-2008 01:01  United Kingdom
Click Here to See the Profile for John 00 Fleming Click here to Send John 00 Fleming a Private Message Visit John 00 Fleming's homepage! Add John 00 Fleming to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2007
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!


Fantastic!

Really enjoyed the 0.0db artist album (Worlds Of Space!), as well as your last three visits to Melbourne for gigs (Gatecrasher, Kryal Castle, Transmission). Was very disappointed when I heard you had pulled out of Earthcore.

Keep up the good work.


___________________
Mix archive | Melbourne club guide

Old Post Oct-29-2008 01:08 
Click Here to See the Profile for Domesticated Click here to Send Domesticated a Private Message Add Domesticated to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
Zocalo > your life


You really must be a pathetic little soul to invest so much energy and vitriolic anger into your proclamations of disgust that people on this forum don't like the same fluff trance you do.


___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

Old Post Oct-29-2008 01:37  England
Click Here to See the Profile for SYSTEM-J Click here to Send SYSTEM-J a Private Message Visit SYSTEM-J's homepage! Add SYSTEM-J to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Mr.Mystery
Static Guru



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
Zocalo > your life

Zocalo = Airwave


___________________
Latest releases:
Endless Cycles [Capital Heaven]
The Charlatan [Morphosis]

Old Post Oct-29-2008 02:47  Finland
Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Mystery Click here to Send Mr.Mystery a Private Message Add Mr.Mystery to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Neo95gt
Suspended User



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: NJ

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You really must be a pathetic little soul to invest so much energy and vitriolic anger into your proclamations of disgust that people on this forum don't like the same fluff trance you do.


No more than the losers that post anger towards tiesto, armin, etc. (aka you) I don't even really like fluff trance. Thanks for playing, go to bed.

Old Post Oct-29-2008 03:02  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Neo95gt Click here to Send Neo95gt a Private Message Add Neo95gt to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Neo95gt
Suspended User



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: NJ

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Zocalo = Airwave


And Airwave = Breathing > *

Old Post Oct-29-2008 03:03  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Neo95gt Click here to Send Neo95gt a Private Message Add Neo95gt to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
miamitranceman
Extreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Miami

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Why? Because we haven't started calling each other names & pulling each others hair yet ?


+1. People are actually having civilized discussion for once.

edit: for the most part


___________________
Click the link below to stream all of my mixes past and present. New mixes go up about once a month. Enjoy!

www.mixcloud.com/jluger

Old Post Oct-29-2008 03:07  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for miamitranceman Click here to Send miamitranceman a Private Message Add miamitranceman to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ Patski
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2006
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Zocalo = Airwave


My god, that never clicked with me until now lol

Old Post Oct-29-2008 03:10  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Patski Click here to Send DJ Patski a Private Message Add DJ Patski to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Philby
Statement: Die, meatbag!



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
Hey no offense taken, don't worry. It's impossible to keep everyone happy and criticism is something an artist gets used too
It's also got me back on this forum
I know what you mean and it's something I've listened too and addressed with my material (due for release in 2009). I always make music for the 'gaps' in my set when I can't find from others, and it's meant for the dancefloor for me me personally...that eventually get released. I have also been touring like crazy the past few years, so never get the time to do a second CD/Radio mixdown. i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious. I have no idea how someone like Armin finds time to work in the studio, he works so hard with weekly radio show etc?!

As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!


album in 2009? when can we expect the announcement that is actually coming out in 2014??


quote:

i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious.


except when you are working with airwave


___________________
new set online, Summer Journeys

Old Post Oct-29-2008 09:46  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for Philby Click here to Send Philby a Private Message Visit Philby's homepage! Add Philby to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
No more than the losers that post anger towards tiesto, armin, etc. (aka you) I don't even really like fluff trance.


Yes you do. And I wasn't displaying anger, I was displaying my opinion. Clearly you're so hopelessly insecure you must percieve that as an attack on yourself and your tastes, an attack which must be met with misguided force. And that's because you're an idiot.

Here's a life lesson: people are going to disagree with you and they're going to be perfectly valid in doing so. Accept it and get the fuck over it.

And thanks for the "AKA you". I would never have figured out who you were aiming that comment at without that helpful guide.


___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

Old Post Oct-29-2008 11:15  England
Click Here to See the Profile for SYSTEM-J Click here to Send SYSTEM-J a Private Message Visit SYSTEM-J's homepage! Add SYSTEM-J to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
kr00t0n
Archduke of Awesome



Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Hibernating

I must say, in terms of keeping clarity between the frequency ranges, even with loads happening at the same time, Flutlicht were brilliant!

Everything was so well defined that there was never any muddiness


___________________
My Mixes

Old Post Oct-29-2008 12:15  United Kingdom
Click Here to See the Profile for kr00t0n Click here to Send kr00t0n a Private Message Visit kr00t0n's homepage! Add kr00t0n to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Music Discussion > Armin van Buuren's productions
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (7): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPhat Electro Track ID Needed! [2007] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackGiorgio Moroder - "The Chase" (Midnight Express) [2007]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:53.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!