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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i guess it would depend on why russia bombed my house.



so, under that explanation, the US has committed an open act of war against Germany, Japan, Italy, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Kosovo, Belgium, and Bulgaria (just to name a few places where the US places troops within a sovereign nation).


You must have missed the memo.

We have a long history of goading others into open war.

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Lemonad
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Fortunately you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to me...

Yea, my comments were pretty darn racist....OOoooo....

Some people have no idea even what racist IS.


I didn't call you racist, oh that'll be too good for you.

I said you're clueless and arrogant, better?

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Originally posted by Lemonad
I didn't call you racist, oh that'll be too good for you.

I said you're clueless and arrogant, better?


Ad hominem only thing you got huh? The irony...


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jerZ07002
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
You must have missed the memo.

We have a long history of goading others into open war.


In other news, Mexico conducts open act of war against US over 40 times since 2007

quote:

U.S. border agents detain Mexican troops
Story Highlights
Mexican troops make accidental incursion into U.S., border agents say

Troops say they became disoriented while on patrol

Troops were taken into custody, later returned to their commanding officer

(CNN) -- Seven members of the Mexican military were found inside the United States on Friday, telling border agents they had become disoriented while on patrol and accidentally crossed into the country, the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol said.

The incident began about 8 a.m. Friday, when the Border Patrol's Yuma, Arizona, sector was notified that a military-style Hummer was broken down, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) said in a written statement.

Agents said they found the vehicle about 200 yards from the Colorado River and the seven individuals were dressed in military-style clothing. The CBP later determined the troops' entry was unauthorized.

CBP agents told the Mexican troops they were inside the United States and "peaceably" took them into custody, the statement said. "At no time were any hostilities exchanged between the agents and military officials." Watch how Mexican troops found their way in the United States »

The Hummer was equipped with a turret-mounted machine gun, the Border Patrol told CNN.

According to the CBP, the soldiers were assigned to the 23rd Regiment Motorized Cavalry of the Mexican Army. The soldiers said they believed they were still in Mexico because they remained on the south side of a newly constructed border fence.

"The soldiers, weapons and vehicle were placed in Border Patrol custody and transported to the CBP San Luis, Arizona, Port of Entry, where each of the subjects was processed in accordance with Border Patrol policy," the statement said. None of the seven had any criminal or immigration history, the agency said.

The soldiers, weapons and vehicle were repatriated and "remanded into the custody of their commanding officer," the Border Patrol said. The incident remains under investigation, however, and the CBP's Office of Internal Affairs was notified, the statement said.

"This is not an uncommon occurrence," Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colorado, told CNN. "Often times, it is the result of the Mexican military providing cover essentially for drug transportation across into our country, and/or creating a diversion so it will draw our people away from the place where the drugs are coming across."

In August, the Border Patrol said Mexican troops had crossed the border illegally 42 times since October 2007.

Tancredo said the U.S. State Department lodged a complaint with the Mexican government for the first time over the military incursions a few weeks ago. Attempts by CNN to contact the State Department and the Mexican government Friday were unsuccessful.

CNN's Casey Wian contributed to this report.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/ameri...rder/index.html

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guerra-monstru
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quote:
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In other news, Mexico conducts open act of war against US over 40 times since 2007



http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/ameri...rder/index.html

No, this was not an open act of war. The troops were lost that is it. Nothing else.

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jerZ07002
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No, this was not an open act of war. The troops were lost that is it. Nothing else.


you missed the point.

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quote:
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you missed the point.
.....explain

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jerZ07002
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quote:
Originally posted by guerra-monstru
.....explain


according to shibby:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Placing troops or launching weapons into any sovereign nation is an open act of war.


while no order may have been given directing mexican troops to enter the US, on 42 occasions Mexican troops (which are agents of the country) were physically located in the US without authority. Under an admittedly strained reading of his definition of 'open act of war,' it is conceivable that Mexico has conducted an open act of war against the US.

Obviously the notion is ridiculous, but that is the intention.

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DJ Shibby
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quote:
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according to shibby:



while no order may have been given directing mexican troops to enter the US, on 42 occasions Mexican troops (which are agents of the country) were physically located in the US without authority. Under an admittedly strained reading of his definition of 'open act of war,' it is conceivable that Mexico has conducted an open act of war against the US.

Obviously the notion is ridiculous, but that is the intention.


Why are you supporting this action so strongly, when there is so little information available on it?

Information is key to all things.

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jerZ07002
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Why are you supporting this action so strongly, when there is so little information available on it?

Information is key to all things.


i hate to point this out, but too many people on this forum read posts without precision and make careless remarks. Click on page 1, and read post 2.

I don't support it; but, I also want it called for what it is. This wasn't the same as airstrikes on government buildings in the capital. for better or worse, titles are important, and many people form opinions simply on titles.

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