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adi_hanson
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Blackburn

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
hard industry to break into though, at least it is here. no matter what qualifications you have or how good your grades are, you always end up fighting against 100 other guys just like you! lol

back on topic... when i started my degree i was set on becomming a programmer or DBA, but the industry seems really shit. particularly in times of economic downturn, companies stop investing in new IT and programmers are the first to lose their jobs. i've seen countless brilliant programmers, who are far more talented than myself, struggling to find work. it just seems like these people are far too undervalued.

instead i'm going to get into the maintenance side of things, rather than working on new stuff. the pay might not be as lucrative, but the work is definately more stable. gonna renew my CCNA and pickup and MCITP in the holidays and start getting into admin work. woo!


In this current climate , im seeing non essential work as risky.
Like, people need to eat , need to drive , need to stay warm in a house.
Any industry that falls out this circle is high risk at the moment , like leisure,holiday(vacation)firms,the culinary sector.

Music is an industry that bit the dust long ago.Only so long you can pump out shit and expect it to return profit.
Anything good is just put on limewire


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atxbigballer1
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Austin,Texas

Get a rich bitch to take care of you and give u money or be a pimp!


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Zak McKracken
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
In this current climate , im seeing non essential work as risky.
Like, people need to eat , need to drive , need to stay warm in a house.
Any industry that falls out this circle is high risk at the moment , like leisure,holiday(vacation)firms,the culinary sector.

Music is an industry that bit the dust long ago.Only so long you can pump out shit and expect it to return profit.
Anything good is just put on limewire


it seems tho that the best music is from times with bad echonomics, so maybe we a few years of good music now?`

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pwnage1
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: United States

quote:
Originally posted by palm
it seems tho that the best music is from times with bad echonomics, so maybe we a few years of good music now?`
Entertainment is a good investment because in a bad economy it almost always stays the same or goes up.


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by palm
dont be an engineer, u will never be free again


Tell me about it. It took me 8 years to get there, and trust me, even though the work is sometimes incredibly amazing, the majority of it is thankless and just the longest hours you will ever have to work. It honestly destroys peoples lives if you do it too long.

Basically, 12 hours is considered a half day. I'm not kidding.

Get a job on the technical/install/design side of things of you really have to be in the industry - just know that if you are an engineer or assistant engineer, your life is theirs......unless you get a union position - then you're made: nice hours, probably 3 x the pay, and a lot of protection.

Get an office job involved in the technology or entertainment sector. Difficult to break through, but probably decent hours and at least something to do with your ultimate goal.

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EgosXII
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Registered: Apr 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by pwnage1
Entertainment is a good investment because in a bad economy it almost always stays the same or goes up.


wtf??
have you ever heard of the economy before!?


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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
wtf??
have you ever heard of the economy before!?


believe it or not, he's actually right. the entertainment industry does seem to weather recessions very well. god knows how or why.

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TerryBogard
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: Southtown

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
believe it or not, he's actually right. the entertainment industry does seem to weather recessions very well. god knows how or why.


simply put, people seek an escape from the shitty times, and the entertainment industry provides this escape.

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Kthought
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Joshua Tree

my steady (steady awesome) valet job on the las vegas strip is dissapearing before my eyes. all ive done outside of parking cars is dick around in various sequencers and music theory books. Makes me think i shoulda gone to school or somethin :\


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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
hard industry to break into though, at least it is here. no matter what qualifications you have or how good your grades are, you always end up fighting against 100 other guys just like you! lol


Well that depends. I had no qualifications to show at all. I just had a small portfolio and showed that I was eager to learn and motivated to work hard.

I just happened to be at the right place & time. My compagnon sells a lot of websites (more than we currently can build in the same timespan he gets a new order). I started there 18 months ago as a programmer and now I'm a manager hehe. I instruct a small team of people to create those websites, and build websites myself. It's a nice job, fun as well. All done by phone and internet, and sometimes we meet up just to have a chat and to make sure we're still all on the same page. Programming gets boring easily though, but it's fairly easy money.


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Stevemarble
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Australia

hmmmmm

is it fair to say that one would need to crack it big time in order to be fully supported by music for life?

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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

yes it is. More or less.

Lots of gigs is the key.


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