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Originally posted by PETRAN Well, i actually care now that i realise all this lost time

Welcome to the club

Interesting post, and I agree with you that probably there's something innate that leads us to adopt the "tit-for-tat" model quite naturally. I'm just quite wary of claiming something is innate, specially when it's not within my field of expertise

Maybe you should read Hauser's book then, it seems like he agrees with you and takes the discussion a few steps further.

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I recently bought a USB drive from a uni lost property sale. They actually had BUCKETLOADS of USB drives that had been left behind, presumably in the same situation as you.

I guess it's probably too late now, but maybe IT could find out who logged on before you?

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Originally posted by Lira Welcome to the club Interesting post, and I agree with you that probably there's something innate that leads us to adopt the "tit-for-tat" model quite naturally. I'm just quite wary of claiming something is innate, specially when it's not within my field of expertise Maybe you should read Hauser's book then, it seems like he agrees with you and takes the discussion a few steps further.

I know, i wanted to read Mark Hauser for quite some time now but unfortunately i can't find the time for it. Thanks for reminding me though!



I also think that in situations such as System-J's in which one has to take some decisions, psychological decision-making models such as the ones proposed by Tversky and Kahneman (leading to the Nobel of economics in the 70s although their extensive experimental work was extending far-beyond economic decisions) have a lot to say. For example anticipated regret can produce "omission bias" in which people prefer inaction over action, and this is higher when the anticipated regret is also perceived as higher than usual. Hence, in this situation in which System-J's object had little relation to his well-being and the anticipated regret was perceived as related to some small moral cheat, action was prefered. In some more serious situations though in which regret would be perceived as devastating for one-self, inaction would be prefered. Also very important is the "perceived justification" bias as well (take an action only when it is justified by something regardless of the fact that even if its not justified it can result in the exact same outcome) This are just some of the biases that Tversky and Kahneman found in their judgement and decision-making studies but there are many more, its just the ones i remembered lol.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've been sick recently of idiots inviting theft upon themselves. When I'm at home I walk my dog around the streets at night, and it's incredible the things people leave on their gardens asking to be swiped: shoes, bikes, pushchairs, footballs and so on. There have been many other instances where I'm being invited to steal things due to people's stupidity or laziness. At the moment I'm pretty tough for cash and my laptop is running out of HDD space. In the face of all this, I stole the fuck out of that USB drive.

lol. you must live on the estate next to mine, people leave bikes, chairs, cars, just sitting there waiting to be nicked I dunno how some of them haven't had it all taken given it's a rough area where they're all thieves anyway

i would've done the same thing and not felt bad about it, if you didn't take advantage of the situation and gank that fucker, someone else would've instead.. it's a $10 thumbdrive, not a major motion picture script.

Leave it in some girl's vagina and attach a note somewhere where he can read it. Leave clues, and make it a scavenger hunt so he'll be reminded to never be so negligent again.

a south beach cab driver returned my wallet one time with the $80 that was in it when i left it there. i gave him $20.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

Seriously, just return it and you'll feel a lot better
Nothing (okay, not a lot) beats a clean conscious.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J [/b [b]COR Version: I stole a USB drive someone had negligently left in a library computer, but now I think I should try and return it and want help figuring out how.

simple stupid, leave it with the person at the library desk. if its important to him he'll ask the desk, otherwise they're so cheap he'll just get a new one. mine is on my key chain so this doesn't ever happen.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H Seriously, just return it and you'll feel a lot better Nothing (okay, not a lot) beats a clean conscious.

seriously, just keep it and use it
nothing (okay, not a lot) beats the feeling of getting something for nothing

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue seriously, just keep it and use it nothing (okay, not a lot) beats the feeling of getting something for nothing

JEW

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee JEW

dont act like u cant see ur birthday thread. go post in it