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djjoshuaallen
livin the dream

Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA

quote:
Originally posted by in2muzikk

So by this logic, African Americans should have just dropped it. The majority decided they were slaves, so the democratic process worked like a charm. Guess it doesn't matter so much as long as you are not the one submitted to religious persecution and your rights are not taken away...

you completly missed the point. Fight on for your cause, that is not the problem. To petition/protest to reopen the ballot on a prop because the outcome was not in your favor? That questions the fabric of what america stands for.

I have no religious interest vested in this prop, but there have been no rights intiatially afforded to gay couples that have been revoked with this prop. An institution was simply redifined in order to uphold its original intent.

Nov-10-2008 00:32 United States

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HotDogWater
pantsaddict

Registered: May 2005
Location: somewhere in CA

quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
what a nice way to render our election process irrelevant. You dont like the outcome, petition for a redo. lol

the republicans called, they would like to start a petition for a redo of the presidential election, they didnt like the outcome of that one. Soon to come, petitions for elections where seats of the house and senate were lost.

to open this back up is to say our democratic process is no good, and if you dont like how we vote, just start a petition and will let you vote again until we get it right for you lol.

while i agree with you in general, in this case i think it's a bit of a catch 22 -- what else can we expect voting on a minority's freedoms when they need a majority vote to win? seems a bit bass-ackwards to me.

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Nov-10-2008 02:07 Sweden

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sugar&ice
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Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Vegas

So past gay marriages are null?

Nov-10-2008 02:07 United States

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Lomeli
Mountain Thug

Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Entuculo, Mexico

quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
That questions the fabric of what america stands for.

Yea, but the fabric needs some cleaning. It's stained with discrimination.

Nov-10-2008 03:09 Mexico

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in2muzikk
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Berlin, Germany

quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
there have been no rights intiatially afforded to gay couples that have been revoked with this prop. An institution was simply redifined in order to uphold its original intent.

Not how I view it, here's another perspective:

On May 16, 2008, the California Supreme Court affirmed that the state constitution, AS IT WAS WRITTEN BY THE FOUNDERS OF THIS STATE MORE THAN 150 YEARS PRIOR, provided official government recognition of all marriages between all couples, regardless of gender.

On November 4, 2008, Proposition 8 amended this constitution to explicitly deny this right to same-sex couples. Nowhere else in either California's constitution or the Federal Constitution are a specific class of rights restricted, to any minority group, for any reason.

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Nov-10-2008 03:13 Germany