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Fledz
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I wasn't arguing with you at all. Just wanting you to clarify. You did, but like 5 posts later.


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GrimReaper
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Espoo, Finland

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Originally posted by Fledz
Yes true, I'm not arguing with there. I just want to know why you think that CDs available directly from the labels through a medium such as CDJShop aren't "properly" pressed but rather just cheap CD-Rs?

Because the CDJShop CD-Rs for example have a blue data side which pressed CDs never do. The blue color of the data side is the main giveaway of most decent quality CD-Rs nowadays, just google CD-R or "CD CD-R difference" or something like that. And "CD glass mastering" if you want to know more how the pressed CDs actually are being made.

Another CD-R giveaway would be that you can clearly see the visible "burned" data section on the disc while you can't on most pressed CDs. Tho depending on the manufacturer, you can see the used data section on some of the pressed CDs as well, some more clearly than others so this isn't the simpliest way of telling pressed CDs apart from CD-rs.


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humilis
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Originally posted by skip
no, they are not exactly the same. they have the same data, but they really aren't exactly the same. from my experience i'd say the cd-r releases are of much worse quality in every way than normally produced cds. i have loads of both and would always rather pay more for a proper cd than a cd-r.


New CD-R:s can't even be played in every CD-player, so that's about their "quality". Pressing aluminium CDs isn't that expensive, so why this is only with commercial labels? All house and techno CDs I have bought are all aluminium.

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seneca
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Originally posted by humilis
New CD-R:s can't even be played in every CD-player, so that's about their "quality". Pressing aluminium CDs isn't that expensive, so why this is only with commercial labels? All house and techno CDs I have bought are all aluminium.


there is usually a 1,000 piece minimum and a place such as Disk Makers would charge $490 for that, not including any packaging. That's a lot of money to spend on a CD Single where most people will download it instead.

http://www.discmakers.com/products/D100.asp

You're looking at about $900 with packaging ready for stores
http://www.discmakers.com/products/J100.asp


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elFreak
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Yes true, I'm not arguing with there. I just want to know why you think that CDs available directly from the labels through a medium such as CDJShop aren't "properly" pressed but rather just cheap CD-Rs?


those idiots also are using mp3.


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Glaniskanis
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those idiots also are using mp3.

uhhh no


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elFreak
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correct me if i am wrong, and maybe i am just confused here, but are these not the same chumps that used to sell vinyl rips on cd?


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humilis
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by seneca
there is usually a 1,000 piece minimum and a place such as Disk Makers would charge $490 for that, not including any packaging. That's a lot of money to spend on a CD Single where most people will download it instead.

http://www.discmakers.com/products/D100.asp

You're looking at about $900 with packaging ready for stores
http://www.discmakers.com/products/J100.asp


Probably it's better idea to use CD medium for albums and compilations, not for singles and EPs anymore, to get more coverage. Still it looks funny that commercial trance (and house) labels are selling mp3s and cdrs and you can buy underground house and techno on vinyl and CD. Shouldn't it be vice versa?

IMO it doesn't look so professional, if you can do same bulk CDs and covers at home with even lower cost. And aluminium CDs are much more durable than CDRs.

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