Ya I have chatted with tem b4 outside Sky about my belief the opener shoulkd never break 130 b4 midnight.

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Originally posted by racing4hoes Ya I have chatted with tem b4 outside Sky about my belief the opener shoulkd never break 130 b4 midnight.

I can see both sides of it. They are trance producers and i know they want to play songs they have produced while playing. (I would to). but at the same time your still not the headliner. but im sure they will be soon enough they are defiantly on the right track.


I do agree with the 130 rule also or around 130.

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Originally posted by racing4hoes Ya I have chatted with tem b4 outside Sky about my belief the opener shoulkd never break 130 b4 midnight.

What they say about it? To my understanding..and Cory would know more about this, there are contracts by certain artists requiring the opener to play only certain styles of music below 130. Shit I've heard some say no higher than 125.

The only thing I'm guessing, was that alot of Tritonal's tracks might be default tempo'd at 135bpm, and that they don't want to compromise the sound quality by pitching them down to 130ish. *shrug*


Whenever I opened for George Acosta and NU NRG at Eternal Nightclub in Austin...the DJ before me always banged hard cheesey trance out at 138+. It was pretty lame for me to have to let the track play completely out, give a 3 second silence, and the start an intro track. *bashes head into wall* But yeah....


Here's my very egotistical two (or 3) cents about opening sets. Fuck humility:

1. Don't be like James Reed and keep the dancefloor dead until the headliner comes out. That's not playing conservatively...that's called having a shitty track selection and sub-par mxing skills. Moving on.

2. Like Ryan said, keep the tempo below 130. If the floor is packed and feeling your set you might get away with going over...but be mindful of whom you are opening for. During Ferry Corsten in March 06 I had the tempo at 133 when he walked into the booth. He was too drunk to give a shit and was dancing around *shrug* so there are exceptions to the rule.

3. The only other advice I have involves knowing your tracks inside and out, and knowing the crowd. I have always said the art of DJing is not how well you can beatmatch, key-match, phrase, and EQ your tracks. It also doesn't matter if you spin vinyl, CDs, use Serrato or Ableton v7. You can have the most technically flawless set and a dead dancefloor at the same time. The art of DJing is and has always been to PLAY THE RIGHT SONG FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT there is no piece of technology in existence that you give you that advantage. YOU have to have that musical ear and instinct to recognize the moment, and recognize the track that will get the crowd jumping.

This probably could have used its own thread, but whatever. The above is also my own opinion to which anyone is free to disagree with.

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Originally posted by Matthias What they say about it? To my understanding..and Cory would know more about this, there are contracts by certain artists requiring the opener to play only certain styles of music below 130. Shit I've heard some say no higher than 125. The only thing I'm guessing, was that alot of Tritonal's tracks might be default tempo'd at 135bpm, and that they don't want to compromise the sound quality by pitching them down to 130ish. *shrug* Whenever I opened for George Acosta and NU NRG at Eternal Nightclub in Austin...the DJ before me always banged hard cheesey trance out at 138+. It was pretty lame for me to have to let the track play completely out, give a 3 second silence, and the start an intro track. *bashes head into wall* But yeah.... Here's my very egotistical two (or 3) cents about opening sets. Fuck humility: 1. Don't be like James Reed and keep the dancefloor dead until the headliner comes out. That's not playing conservatively...that's called having a shitty track selection and sub-par mxing skills. Moving on. 2. Like Ryan said, keep the tempo below 130. If the floor is packed and feeling your set you might get away with going over...but be mindful of whom you are opening for. During Ferry Corsten in March 06 I had the tempo at 133 when he walked into the booth. He was too drunk to give a shit and was dancing around *shrug* so there are exceptions to the rule. 3. The only other advice I have involves knowing your tracks inside and out, and knowing the crowd. I have always said the art of DJing is not how well you can beatmatch, key-match, phrase, and EQ your tracks. It also doesn't matter if you spin vinyl, CDs, use Serrato or Ableton v7. You can have the most technically flawless set and a dead dancefloor at the same time. The art of DJing is and has always been to PLAY THE RIGHT SONG FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT there is no piece of technology in existence that you give you that advantage. YOU have to have that musical ear and instinct to recognize the moment, and recognize the track that will get the crowd jumping. This probably could have used its own thread, but whatever. The above is also my own opinion to which anyone is free to disagree with.

OMG i laughed my fkn ass off at one of these statements in here you listed and im sure you know witch one.

Yeah i have had opening sets that were perfect as far as djing wise but had a bare dance floor.

every show every club and every time you dj is going to be different than the next. you can never play the same shit in the same order and expect to get the same result, and can never have your set pre planned out or less your a would class FAMOUS dj then it doesnt matter wtf you do cause the majority of the crowd knows no different and goes crazy anyways.

My opinion is the hardest dj job you can have is getting people on a dance floor when the club just opens and no one is drunk yet.

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Originally posted by Benjamin DuBose Yeah i have had opening sets that were perfect as far as djing wise but had a bare dance floor.

That was the case for me in Dallas a month back. Whenever its too early or there isn't a crowd yet, I look and see who's around and just play shit I think they'll dig. *shrug* Or just play shit I like to see how it sounds on a system.

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Originally posted by Benjamin DuBose My opinion is the hardest dj job you can have is getting people on a dance floor when the club just opens and no one is drunk yet.

Yes it is. That's where the artistic challenge of being a DJ comes in. The way I try to play it is like:

1. Get the girls on the dancefloor
2. The Julios will follow
3. More people will creep onto the floor if there's enough people to blend with.
4. So on until gradually everyone else's drugs and drinks kick in to where you get almost everyone away from the bars and jumping to your set.

Doesn't always work...but then again music will never be an exact science.

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Originally posted by Matthias The Julios will follow

+1

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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira +1

While I ultimately despise Julios, those who suffer from Juliosis, and/or anyone who practices Julism in general... they add to the factor of "crowd size" in regards to a dancefloor. The more people on a dancefloor, the more tendency your shyer will venture out that dig what your playing, but don't want to go on the floor by themselves.

Bigger your crowd size, the more people that will be drawn to it.

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Originally posted by Matthias While I ultimately despise Julios, those who suffer from Juliosis, and/or anyone who practices Julism in general... they add to the factor of "crowd size" in regards to a dancefloor. The more people on a dancefloor, the more tendency your shyer will venture out that dig what your playing, but don't want to go on the floor by themselves. Bigger your crowd size, the more people that will be drawn to it.

the Juliocritis religion does not apply to me. Go to an ATB gig, and you'll feel violated.

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Originally posted by racing4hoes Ya I have chatted with tem b4 outside Sky about my belief the opener shoulkd never break 130 b4 midnight.

It isn't even necessary to ever go above 130. Especially since they stopped making music that is any good above 130 years ago.

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Originally posted by Zild It isn't even necessary to ever go above 130. Especially since they stopped making music that is any good above 130 years ago.

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Yeah, Tritonal do have a problem with banging it out before every dj lol.. funny ol Chad! and yeah I don't break 127/128...

man, i wish i made it to this show. sounds like it was a lot of fun. i hate work sometimes, but the overtime i've been putting in lately is going to make it all worth it.