I'm not talking about creativity or lack of it really, more about motivation. Selling lots of copies is fine. I'm just wondering why people would use the number of sales as a way to judge the quality of their own work.
Isn't it more important than you've done something that gave you a feeling of accomplishment, regardless of how popular it ends up being?
Nov-19-2008 21:00
Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
I think he is just trying to say that he forced himself to produce and that it helped him out.
Originally posted by Subtle
I think he is just trying to say that he forced himself to produce and that it helped him out.
Yeah, that's what I thought he meant as well and that's what I was referring to in my previous reply. Sometimes forcing yourself is good, especially when the hurdle you're trying to overcome is simply your own mindset - you may think you're producing crap, but others may love it (and therefore be willing to buy it, as subtle was implying).
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Nov-19-2008 22:12
Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What do sales have to do with anything?
That there was obviously something right with the forced tracks
People don't buy music that sounds forced or sounds bad to them in a way. Well, I sure wouldn't.
Sometimes forcing can produce interesting results, new approaches/techniques. Most of the times I have problems with producing it's just because I'm in the wrong state of mind. When you're in a mood that's non-constructive. That's probably the most important thing for me, making sure I have a positive attitude to begin with, think of solutions instead of thinking about the problems.
If less is more think about how much more more would be.
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Last edited by Storyteller on Nov-20-2008 at 08:27
Nov-20-2008 08:21
a98
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kotka, Finland
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I'm just wondering why people would use the number of sales as a way to judge the quality of their own work.
well there isn't really any other good way to measure how many people like the track. ofcourse every producer has their own opinnion, for instance some of my own favourite tracks are the ones that sold the least. but if a track sells well and a lot of deejays pick it up, then you must think that the track turned out good.
ofcourse there are always forums, but 10-20 comments doesn't really say much.
Originally posted by a98
some of my own favourite tracks are the ones that sold the least. but if a track sells well and a lot of deejays pick it up, then you must think that the track turned out good.
Which in effect should translate to more sales because people like it. Correct?
I definitely think the more popular your track is the better it is. It just has something special which the majority of people like (x-factor I guess). That doesn't tell anything about the quality/originality of the production but it does tell you if it provokes a positive response from the audience.
Sales equals popularity. Popularity equals crowd response. The better the overall crowd response, the better the track. Thus, better tracks equal more sales. imo.
If less is more think about how much more more would be.
-Frasier
Last edited by Storyteller on Nov-20-2008 at 11:39
Nov-20-2008 11:26
airwalker1
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Registered: Jul 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Which in effect should translate to more sales because people like it. Correct?
I definitely think the more popular your track is the better it is. It just has something special which the majority of people like (x-factor I guess). That doesn't tell anything about the quality/originality of the production but it does tell you if it provokes a positive response from the audience.
Sales equals popularity. Popularity equals crowd response. The better the overall crowd response, the better the track. Thus, better tracks equal more sales. imo.
yes but when you make track at home in the bedroom their is no feed back from people so.
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Nov-20-2008 13:32
G-Con
aka Greg Nicot
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Which in effect should translate to more sales because people like it. Correct?
I definitely think the more popular your track is the better it is. It just has something special which the majority of people like (x-factor I guess). That doesn't tell anything about the quality/originality of the production but it does tell you if it provokes a positive response from the audience.
Sales equals popularity. Popularity equals crowd response. The better the overall crowd response, the better the track. Thus, better tracks equal more sales. imo.
Yeah, I think in this instance, Mr Mystery anfd MrJivebojingles were a little too quick to take the "how does sales = quality" stance.
Fact is, I never know how to rate my own tracks. Usually I'm sick of them come completion and I focus on all the little things I think are crap about the track and can fail to see the bigger picture of whether the track is enjoyable to listen to or not. I would say that using the number of sales your track has had in relation to your other tracks is as good a measure as any in deciding if the track was actually any good. Thats not to say that if it sold poorly its crap. Not at all. But if it sold well, it must have been decent and worth the effort.
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Nov-20-2008 13:53
Sonic_c
Heaven Scent
Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Midlands
I do lots of things like pick up my synth and make new patches/sounds for hours. I even got my microkorg to produce a sound that has a beat of sorts hi hats and a bassline and a sweep just by holding one key. very bored day.
Other thing is just play chords like for hours even if you know nothing eventually you will stumble on one you like and then once you got the chords i find songs write themselves.
Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.
