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Israel is an occupier of both the west bank and gaza on repeated occasions. They still seize boats, they still prevent ports or airports from operating, they still stop shipments by sea to the Gaza Seaside, they still destroy tunnels in Gaza. They still control taxation and foreign investments in way of import allowances which are all screened by Israel, how can you say this is not an occupation. |
no, you said - "I meant oversee the issues such as territorial waters, taxation, etc.. for the palastinians rather than the israelis" - now, wtf are you talking about exactly?
i'll type reeeel slooooow so you can understand...what more do you want Egypt to do other than what they've agreed to through past obligations
| quote: | | I'm talking about how Israel has been killing palastinians for more than 50 years now - like 60, while Egypt has remained more or less at peace with Palastine. Of course Egypt will be able to help form a more stable and functioning government for the good of the people, so less radicals come out, and the need for national security forces such as Hamas to be actively engaged on a regular basis is removed, and then maybe a real chance for a life can exist rather than infrequent incursions by Israel into its neighbours, which do neither Israel nor their neighbours any real benifits, because it is never lasting. |
again, either you're too stupid to understand this or you're just fucking with me. Arabs, Egyptian or otherwise, have little interest in taking on or taking over what is already an UN mandated, politically autonomous Gaza strip.
what would be any Arab government's incentive for babysitting a psychotic basketcase that is Gazan domestic politics? Hamas is an international political pariah on par with Robert Mugabe or even Al Queera. no one, not even Palestinians in the West Bank want much to do with Hamas.
every one of those links including whatever "bunches more" you could provide occur after the Israeli unilateral disengagement plan ending in 2006.
how in the fuck do you think Hamas efectively controls Gaza now? how do you think Hamas pushed out Fatah after the very first free elections ever held in a Palestine, so to speak? do you think Israel just let them have elections all of sudden while they still controled Gaza strip? NO! Israel washed their hands of Gaza years ago. everything after that is a response to rocket attacks and incursions from Gaza strip and Hamas.
| quote: | | By the way what happened doesn't matter, it is what you would like to happen. |
i would like to see Hamas do a lot of things, but....c'mon it's Hamas. are they going to try and take care of their people and responsibilities better before they start executing their plans of destruction for all things Israeli in the name of a war the Arabs lost 50 years ago? fuck no. they're completely and hopelessly irrational.
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'm appaled Israel has been scraping its but for the last 3 years on deploying rocket defence, and having secure border security patrols, and instead have chose to waste millions of dollars ruining the local economies and souring relations with their neighbours more. |
thats the nifty thing about Kasams and Katyusha's you can't defend against them. there is no "missile shield" that can protect Israeli targets from them. they're like very long range mortars except with mortars you can pinpoint a reasonable target area. kasam's and katyusha's just end up down range somewhere...and they just keep coming. Hamas just keeps producing them out of thin air i suppose, like magic. like they dig them out of some ancient Babylonian rocket mine somewhere
Last edited by Q5echo on Dec-02-2008 at 11:52
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