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Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
We have an Alpha-Bravo-Idiot, over.


I just don't get it one bit. This is supposed to be a political debate forum, right? Am I in the right place? The c0r gets so much shit for its antics but clearly, when Mongo broke from his leash, he came stampeding through here.


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{b.s.e.}
savant garde



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Source

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I just don't get it one bit. This is supposed to be a political debate forum, right? Am I in the right place? The c0r gets so much shit for its antics but clearly, when Mongo broke from his leash, he came stampeding through here.


I hope the irony of what I'm about to do is appreciated.



I'm not sure but I suspect they both are named Mongo.

[/cor]

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atbell
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
The WP article in question exists, albeit, I'm not racing through my tickle-trunk looking for Gabriel's Horn, quite yet.

EXECUTIVE ORDER ....



May I add in my own, significantly smaller, US policy knowledge:

quote:
]Originally posted by US Bail-out

14 TITLE IV—EXTENSION OF TAX
15 ADMINISTRATION PROVISIONS
16 SEC. 401. PERMANENT AUTHORITY FOR UNDERCOVER OP17
ERATIONS.
18 (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 7608(c) (relating to rules
19 relating to undercover operations) is amended by striking
20 paragraph (6).
21 (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendment made by
22 this section shall apply to operations conducted after the
23 date of the enactment of this Act.

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1 SEC. 402. PERMANENT AUTHORITY FOR DISCLOSURE OF
2 INFORMATION RELATING TO TERRORIST AC3
TIVITIES.
4 (a) DISCLOSURE OF RETURN INFORMATION TO AP5
PRISE APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS OF TERRORIST ACTIVI6
TIES.—Subparagraph (C) of section 6103(i)(3) is amend7
ed by striking clause (iv).
8 (b) DISCLOSURE UPON REQUEST OF INFORMATION
9 RELATING TO TERRORIST ACTIVITIES.—Paragraph (7) of
10 section 6103(i) is amended by striking subparagraph (E).
11 (c) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by
12 this section shall apply to disclosures after the date of the
13 enactment of this Act.


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Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



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quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
I'm not sure but I suspect they both are named Mongo.

[/cor]


Guy on the right looks like he's from the woods...

wait a sec...

is that-


is that...

Q5echo?


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{b.s.e.}
savant garde



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I would never have thought him to be so calloused as to show his face; judging from his [lack of] response to direct questioning.

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guerra-monstru
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: D.F., Mexico

quote:
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Only on the internet, my ignorant friend, would you ever get away with telling me to 'shut the fuck up'. Doughboys don't get respect, you guys get knocked out. Learn some freakin manner's, CORboy. I'm not starting a hypothetical fist fight here with you either, only to remind you that we're all human beings, and I don't condescend to you [granted the temptation is there ].

If you'd like to know more about the police state, perhaps you might peruse and research the following:

Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.

Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation.
I did some research and the congress never passed those bills. So none of those are LAWS. Plus, most people are overreacting. The military will not do anything crazy.

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quote:
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I did some research and the congress never passed those bills. So none of those are LAWS. Plus, most people are overreacting. The military will not do anything crazy.


why am i not surprised neither cougar nor b.s.e. could manage to research the topic properly, and merely swallow anything they read on the net?


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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
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I did some research and the congress never passed those bills. So none of those are LAWS. Plus, most people are overreacting. The military will not do anything crazy.


Executive Orders bypass congress. n00b.

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quote:
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why am i not surprised neither cougar nor b.s.e. could manage to research the topic properly, and merely swallow anything they read on the net?


Why am I not surprised you threw a penny into the pool and stole a nickel?

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quote:
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why am i not surprised neither cougar nor b.s.e. could manage to research the topic properly, and merely swallow anything they read on the net?


As an afterthought, kudos on rushing into a wall so easily.

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guerra-monstru
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quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Executive Orders bypass congress. n00b.
Nope, you are still mistaken. Everything you posted is ILLEGAL and will never be enforced.

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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
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Nope, you are still mistaken. Everything you posted is ILLEGAL and will never be enforced.


Sir, you are a fool. Good day.

*edit*

Or present your case.

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