IIRC "dj'ing" means playing music for other people.

so, someone who plays a track, lets it stop, cues another track and introduces it, starts playing the track, and repeats, is djing. it's quite a very broad term.

oh oops thats what Blake said lol

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell no you are wrong you are only defending ableton half-assed because jamie jones uses it. if he didnt, you would all over the opposition side of the argument and you know it, you are originally a hip hop dj. DJING EXISTED BEFORE BEATMATCHING AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST AFTER BEATMATCHING BECOMES OBSOLETE. BEATMATCHING != DJING. DJING IS PLAYING MUSIC FOR OTHER PEOPLE, THATS IT.

Thats just your definition of DJing. Everyone has a different one.

Personally, for dance music, I think two decks, good tracks and a decent mixer are really all you need. The rest is largely unnecessary and in my mind deflects focus from the essential.

Thats just my opinion of course.

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As for the original topic, the only thing Deadmau5 proved is that a Grammy isn't worth jack.

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Originally posted by Clovis Thats just your definition of DJing. Everyone has a different one. Personally, for dance music, I think two decks, good tracks and a decent mixer are really all you need. The rest is largely unnecessary and in my mind deflects focus from the essential. Thats just my opinion of course.

and your opinion doesnt differ from mine at all...so what is your point?

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell and your opinion doesnt differ from mine at all...so what is your point?

That DJing is not just "playing music for other people"

Local radio stations do that.

People put on a CD when they have friends over.

etc...


None of that is in any way the same as how we play dance music to people.

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Originally posted by Clovis That DJing is not just "playing music for other people" Local radio stations do that. People put on a CD when they have friends over. etc... None of that is in any way the same as how we play dance music to people.

local radio stations have these things called DJs, do they not?


my point was that selecting music was always called DJing before beatportal told you otherwise.

the way music is presented in Dance music does not comprise the all encompassing definition of DJing. just like getting in an airplane is not the only definition of flight.

and the only way it differs from the way its presented in dance music is beatmatching.

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radio stations have dj's. geezus keriste.

Obviously my opinion does differ from yours.

I don't think using ableton to play other people's music is DJing.

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the problem is, its not a question of opinion. a "DJ" (disc jockey) has a commonly known definition. have a look.

http://www.google.com/search?q=disc+jockey+definition

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Originally posted by Clovis Obviously my opinion does differ from yours. I don't think using ableton to play other people's music is DJing.

im trying to tell you that the universally accepted definition of djing which is based on history, facts, research, academia, and experience makes your opinion completely paradoxical.

you are clearly just trying to be contrary because i owned your friend, admit it.

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell im trying to tell you that the universally accepted definition of djing which is based on history, facts, research, academia, and experience makes your opinion completely paradoxical. you are clearly just trying to be contrary because i owned your friend, admit it.

No it isn't paradoxical.

Within that broad definition there are countless forms of DJing. What one person considers to be DJing can be completely different from someone else's idea. I don't particularly think either of you are right. While using ableton is technically DJing, just like playing music for dinner guests, queuing up tracks on the radio, or using the bpm counter on CDJs, to ME, it is not DJing.

A radio DJ is closer to my idea of DJing than someone using ableton to play other people's music.

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Originally posted by Clovis No it isn't paradoxical. Within that broad definition there are countless forms of DJing. What one person considers to be DJing can be completely different from someone else's idea. I don't particularly think either of you are right. While using ableton is technically DJing, just like playing music for dinner guests, queuing up tracks on the radio, or using the bpm counter on CDJs, to ME, it is not DJing. A radio DJ is closer to my idea of DJing than someone using ableton to play other people's music.

what exactly is the Clovis definition of DJing then? what mechanics are involved, if any? what artist expression is involved, if any? is this definition static, or is it something you change to be contrary with people on forums?

correct me if im wrong, but in one instance it seems like you are basing djing on beatmatching, while in the other instance you are implying that its not required (radio djing). in the end, i dont think you are so much defending the content of your opinion, but moreso defending the fact that you HAVE an opinion.

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