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Originally posted by PETRAN These are intelligent because someone said so i believe.

point taken. although now you mention it im not dictating, but aligning my tastes with what ticks my boxes. but surely in a discussion like this, given the thread title, lists of tracks were going to appear!

So it appears the general consensus is that there is no such thing as intelligent music.

But I ask you this: In the same way you weed through the "dull" tracks on digital music sites to find the tunes that are "good" to you, can you weed through your "good" tunes and pick out the ones that are the most "intelligent?"

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Class Tunes:

Hardfloor - Don't Trust Chief Wiggum
The Black Dog - Train by the Autobahn (Part 2)
Luke Solomon - Space Invaders (Andromat 3000 Remix)
Shed - Well Done (033472 Edit)
Shlomi Aber feat. Lemon - Moods

Not always intelligent but always complex: Psytrance

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Originally posted by s3nate Never intelligent but always complicated: Psytrance

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Originally posted by digitalEyes So it appears the general consensus is that there is no such thing as intelligent music. But I ask you this: In the same way you weed through the "dull" tracks on digital music sites to find the tunes that are "good" to you, can you weed through your "good" tunes and pick out the ones that are the most "intelligent?"

"Intelligent" in terms of what? Like they have a complicated structure? Or intelligent is just another term for quality?

yoji

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i think the term "quality" gets thrown around to loosely describe music that people like. but we'll have a hard time trying to define "intelligent" without exemplifying stuff to our own tastes - so it would make sense to say that discussing criteria across genres and sub-genres won't work.

there is such a thing as intelligent music, but at a level only transmissible between the artist and the listener. the consensus within this thread is that we agree to disagree regardless of taste, so the idea maybe applies less between listeners.

one person's distinction is another's pretense.

4'33" by John Cage.

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Originally posted by sgb476 project-k is correct there. i perceive "intelligent" music to be for the mind, and to trigger emotions and thought process without necessarily narcotic assistance: henrik b - logos [truesoul] duplex - vivid array [frantic flowers] "intelligent" music doesn't really need to be complex in structure either - take for example the concept of reduced techno (not "minimal"), in which every single sound is integral to the track. anything that does not need to be there is not included. shed - flat axe [ostgut ton] robert hood - side effect [music man] substance - relish [scion versions] "intelligent" music can simply be perfect for what it is; be it a loop, tool, or soundtrack for a particular time or place. maurizio - m4 [m] patrice scott - raw fusion [sistrum] and "intelligent" music doesn't need to be mellow either. music with soul AND some punch is bang on the money. future beat investigators - dark suite [raw fusion]

Best response so far. Don't know why this has to be a big argument. Thanks for keeping it simple.

Edit: Oh, is that Shed track anything like the one in my sig? The Well Done edit is extremely hypnotic.

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Class Tunes:

Hardfloor - Don't Trust Chief Wiggum
The Black Dog - Train by the Autobahn (Part 2)
Luke Solomon - Space Invaders (Andromat 3000 Remix)
Shed - Well Done (033472 Edit)
Shlomi Aber feat. Lemon - Moods

Actually, I can think of one that's conceptually smarter than just about any other record I've ever heard:

The Orb - Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld.

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> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
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Originally posted by sgb476 there is such a thing as intelligent music, but at a level only transmissible between the artist and the listener. the consensus within this thread is that we agree to disagree regardless of taste, so the idea maybe applies less between listeners. one person's distinction is another's pretense.

Yes. There is no right or wrong answer that I'm trying to decipher out of this thread. I'm just trying to pick at people's brain--not to judge, just to discover.

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Class Tunes:

Hardfloor - Don't Trust Chief Wiggum
The Black Dog - Train by the Autobahn (Part 2)
Luke Solomon - Space Invaders (Andromat 3000 Remix)
Shed - Well Done (033472 Edit)
Shlomi Aber feat. Lemon - Moods