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Krypton
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Originally posted by The17sss
No, I'm just saying that whether we torture or not, regardless of the circumstance, American's captured over there (middle east) will most likely get abused. I think if you look at the big picture, America is not at the top of the list for inhumanity.


Why should we even be on the list? You do know, that minus the fucking ethics of it, we are bound by international treaties on torture which we have definitively violated, right? Right?


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So because of your assumption that our enemies would torture our soldiers, that gives us the right to torture who we capture? I guess you haven't known about the hundreds of innocent people we have detained and used "enhanced interrogation techniques" on. Only to be released without charge after years of detention.


It's a good example of how countries decay into chaos, as they have done many times throughout history.

Basically you only need a certain amount of the population to believe what that fellow believes, that we have a right to torture because our enemies will for example, and a certain amount of the population to sit idly.

Nationalism is a very dangerous psychological virus.

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Nationalism is a very dangerous psychological virus.


That's a very silly statement. Nationalism (real or imagined) gave us the modern state, which has remarkably led to the most pervasive state of peace in modern human history.

It's easy to hate on nationalism when you only acknowledge violent manifestations of identity.


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That's a very silly statement. Nationalism (real or imagined) gave us the modern state, which has remarkably led to the most pervasive state of peace in modern human history.

It's easy to hate on nationalism when you only acknowledge violent manifestations of identity.


You are appeased by what is because you can not dream up what could be.

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You are appeased by what is because you can not dream up what could be.


Erm, what?


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America is not at the top of the list for inhumanity.


America probably published the list and decided to conveniently leave itself out.


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