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Lebezniatnikov
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Originally posted by guerra-monstru
Why would the CIA be active on US soil, when they have the FBI or the NSA?


They wouldn't.


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guerra-monstru
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quote:
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They wouldn't.
But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?

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Lebezniatnikov
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But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?


Some people watch too many movies I guess - and others just read bad sources.

I'm as big a critic of this current administration as you're likely to find, but it's important to be realistic with accusations - otherwise credibility is ruined.


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DJ Shibby
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quote:
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But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?


Why do you assume only the CIA would assassinate this target?

It could be any organization or a non-organization linked or unlinked with the white house.

Why are you nitpicking this point?

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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Some people watch too many movies I guess - and others just read bad sources.

I'm as big a critic of this current administration as you're likely to find, but it's important to be realistic with accusations - otherwise credibility is ruined.


Credibility is almost always an illusion.

Go with your gut.

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Lebezniatnikov
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Credibility is almost always an illusion.

Go with your gut.



Yeah, worked for Bush.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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i want to know why the republicans have such a hold over what the CIA does or does not do? like, how does it work exactly? a GOP kingpin gets on the phone and calls the head of the CIA black ops commander and asks him to do a favour for an old friend?

it boggles my mind which ideas you people entertain with absolutely nothing approaching evidence to get you started.

and lol @ northwoods. nothing like an operation that wasn't carried out as evidence for other attacks. ahhh, the gotta love the logic of woo.


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DJ Shibby
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Yeah, worked for Bush.


Going with your gut won't help if it's full of shit.

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DJ Shibby
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i want to know why the republicans have such a hold over what the CIA does or does not do? like, how does it work exactly? a GOP kingpin gets on the phone and calls the head of the CIA black ops commander and asks him to do a favour for an old friend?

it boggles my mind which ideas you people entertain with absolutely nothing approaching evidence to get you started.

and lol @ northwoods. nothing like an operation that wasn't carried out as evidence for other attacks. ahhh, the gotta love the logic of woo.


I think mentioning the CIA was a mistake and more of a blanket idea than a physical fact.

Most of the governmental groups who perform assassinations are most likely extremely rogue and solitary, to minimize their link. Sleeper cells, etc.

I was mainly trying to point out that SOMEONE very well may have assassinated this guy conveniently. I don't pretend to know who, but I will be wary of the record.

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shaolin_Z
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Going with your gut won't help if it's full of shit.

LOL, indeed .


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I think mentioning the CIA was a mistake and more of a blanket idea than a physical fact.

Most of the governmental groups who perform assassinations are most likely extremely rogue and solitary, to minimize their link. Sleeper cells, etc.

I was mainly trying to point out that SOMEONE very well may have assassinated this guy conveniently. I don't pretend to know who, but I will be wary of the record.


yes, i find that much more plausible. but again, im still wondering why it must be "the government", rather than individuals currently unknown? like, why would an intelligence agency give two shits about a GOP IT guy that may or may not have rigged vote machines? where's my incentive to go along with something like an assassination?


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DJ Shibby
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yes, i find that much more plausible. but again, im still wondering why it must be "the government", rather than individuals currently unknown? like, why would an intelligence agency give two shits about a GOP IT guy that may or may not have rigged vote machines? where's my incentive to go along with something like an assassination?


The incentive for me was just the context of the situation.

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