Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
I voted for both, but that is because I always used both before I moved to Logic. I didn't like doing mixdowns in Ableton, and I didn't like doing live jams in Cubase, so I needed both.
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Originally posted by JustinMead
Its not the software that makes the songs, its the individual.
Heck, in the past people used to make tracks with old Ataris or primitive Macs and a few hardware synths. And I like a lot of that stuff more than the pristine tracks that get put out these days...
Jan-07-2009 18:39
Craiggallon
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
I was using Cubase but moved over to Ableton about 7months ago. I find the work flow in LIVE alot quicker for some reason, defo a fan of Ableton.
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Jan-07-2009 21:33
JmanNZ
tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2008
Location:
I tried cubase, but for the life of me I couldn't get my midi keyboard working and couldn't load VST's so gave up. I use ableton now (which did all that automatically! also the easiest to rewire with) and love it as it really helps with generating ideas and playing with concepts on the fly. Without that clip view that lets you sample different combinations of loops I think I would spend twice as long making stuff half as good. Ableton just looks ugly and doesn't sit on dual displays very well.
Jan-07-2009 23:12
staticblue
myloops.net
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toulouse, France
quote:
Originally posted by psymon.d
why did you switch, if you don't mind me asking? i've done the same thing (as in switched from FL).
I think I just needed a break from the whole pattern based arrangement system in FL. I have been using FL for 8 years now, and until a few weeks ago I thought it was the ideal sequencer for me. But now that I have tried Live there is no going back ! I find it more fun to produce with, faster to use (except for the piano roll) and has opened new possibilities for me in terms of mixing and arrangement
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Jan-07-2009 23:40
ponsshin
Trance free since 2007
Registered: May 2007
Location: London, UK
quote:
Originally posted by staticblue
I think I just needed a break from the whole pattern based arrangement system in FL. I have been using FL for 8 years now, and until a few weeks ago I thought it was the ideal sequencer for me. But now that I have tried Live there is no going back ! I find it more fun to produce with, faster to use (except for the piano roll) and has opened new possibilities for me in terms of mixing and arrangement
The first and only time I tried FL was 4 years ago at a friends on NYE, I wasn't serious at producing at that time but I felt that even if making 1 bar loop fun and easy, making a whole track was not.
When I got seriously into producing two years ago, looking out for gear and stuff I found out that FL Studio didn't support the VST format and that Live was the easiest one to work with MIDI. My choice was made and I was later baffled at how easy it is to use.
For example, Jaytech switched from Logic to Live stating that it was quicker to experiment with.
Originally posted by staticblue
I find it more fun to produce with, faster to use (except for the piano roll) and has opened new possibilities for me in terms of mixing and arrangement
If you don't know them that well, you should learn the shortcuts. Makes the piano roll much easier and quicker. It used to take me forever till I finally gave in and read the manual, now I can do all the things I always wondered if you could even do in Live.
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Scotland, Edinburgh
quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
If you don't know them that well, you should learn the shortcuts. Makes the piano roll much easier and quicker. It used to take me forever till I finally gave in and read the manual, now I can do all the things I always wondered if you could even do in Live.
Yes I think everyone should read there manuals it saves alot of time and your workflow increases.
Jan-08-2009 14:13
echosystm
super wow maker
Registered: Jul 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
I found out that FL Studio didn't support the VST format
lol wtf? you dumbass, FL has supported VST since before it was even called "FL Studio"... Way back around "Fruity Loops 2.x". Oh, this is like 5 years ago by the way. :P
Jan-08-2009 22:49
ponsshin
Trance free since 2007
Registered: May 2007
Location: London, UK
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
lol wtf? you dumbass, FL has supported VST since before it was even called "FL Studio"... Way back around "Fruity Loops 2.x". Oh, this is like 5 years ago by the way. :P
Got confused with Reason maybe.
Call me dumbass but there's no way I'm going back to FL.
Workflow is unbeatable in Live.