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Adam420
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Location: Montreal, QC

Well personally I didn't get bored with the scene as I was never a part of it, it's just that shit started sounding the same and I realized I need to change things up. And I also started listening to progressive house which I like a lot more.


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Zak McKracken
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Why does the BPM make a difference? Listening to the same ideas again and again is boring at any speed...

only if it got breaks.

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Camwin
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Registered: Feb 2004
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My thoughts:

It's started getting really predictable.
Everything about a song is based on the next.

They started making music for clubs and hands-in-the-air moments, and not actually about musical merit or to tell a 'story'.

Melody and the 'emotion' it gives took over the genre and left behind percussion and groove.
I mean listen to any of the generics and tell me there's any groove left in the main section?

The 303 left :P (though i've been hearing more and more of it lately)

I think i've found my sound in Psy (Prog/Morning) but i still like to listen to Trance just in case i still find that gem.


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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
How long have you been listening to trance? 1-2? 3 years at most?

Listen to these:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TxvpctgU_s8

and

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8K8J1BnHw


So tell me....do you listen to trance?


First one:
Not trance to me, not hypnotic or uplifting or makes me wanna dance, but this version is:

Armin van Buuren ft. Sharon den Adel - In And Out Of Love (The Blizzard Remix)

Second one:
Same like goa and minimal, just a relative small group of people like this type. Not danceable for most people, wrong beat, play it in a club and see what happens. I don't like it. (Probably also is why I never heard a track of Apex Twin I liked....)

I always liked techno, but hate minimal. To me EDM at least needs a danceable beat and then it doesn't matter whether it is house, techno, happy hardcore or trance, (which of course doesn't mean I like everything...)
Trance never borred me for a second since I started listening in the early 90s, but to me it always needed to be melodic and danceable. I enjoy listening ASOT, but many tracks are not special, so I pick the ones I really like. No reason for not liking ASOT. To me the number of tracks I do like matter and not the number of tracks I don't.....
IMO trance moved in the direction of Eurohouse, something which is not really a strange thing to happen. Eurohouse always has been extremely commercial and the Dutch and German record labels have some experience with that so.....


I like trance most, but would enjoy anything like these three and even the good (vocal) uplifting trance tracks any time. I wonder who likes them all and who doesn't, three completely different tracks, but all "dancefloor proof" IMO:

Viper - The Twister (Original Club Mix)

Tenth Chapter - Wired (Stonk Remix)

This one probably is the best example made "dancefloor proof" and more timeless also:

Speedy J - Pullover (Celvin Rotane Remix)

"Dancefloor proof", enjoying music, think that's were it's all about, or like they often said: Feel The Beat...


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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
(Probably also is why I never heard a track of Apex Twin I liked....)


Clearly, you're doing something wrong.


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elFreak
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click the link in his sig and you will see what that is.

dead unicorns don't talk lol.


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jupiterone
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Location: los angeles

because it is

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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
click the link in his sig and you will see what that is.

dead unicorns don't talk lol.


Disrespect is all I see (and I didn't make it)..... but we get used to that, or maybe we don't....


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nefardec
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because the novelty wears off

and because people grow in emotional maturity

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Fundamental
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Probably because their musical tastes don't branch far enough from it. You can't eat cake for every meal.


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
You can't eat cake for every meal.

what do you really mean here, sounds like a double meaning somehow, are u preaching?

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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

This "over-commercialisation of current trance" that people say is just stupid to me. Trance could always venture to the commercial side, with diva and poppy vocals and stuff e.g. some tracks by Jam and Spoon had pop vocals among many others. Also those "Van Buurenesque"(and Above and Beyond-esque) poppy trance tracks were made like from 1997 or something (and the whole 90s euro-trance stuff were very commercial), do you remember tracks like "Toca's Miracle" in '99 and many tracks released in Perfecto, Xtravaganza, Positiva etc.? Do you remember that many producers "re-mixed" some of the good instrumental tunes in order to get commercial appeal? "Synaesthesia", "Perception" are some of the countless examples that come to mind (and Toca's Miracle mentioned before).





Some years, like 2001, were terrible years for trance, with tracks like Ferry Corsten's remix of "Castles in The Sky" getting good reviews by the press (!). The quantity of the epic-trance tracks that had vocals in 2001 was probably almost equal to the purely instrumental tracks, not to mention that the number of the tracks produced was very small (i have to say that some excellent instrumental tracks were released in 2001-2002 though like "Reflections" by Firewall and "Open Your Eyes" by Insigma. It was just that they were relatively rare in comparison to the number of tracks released in 98-99 and the number of tracks released after epic-trance's "come-back" in 2004).



There are still intrumental epic-trance tracks released, listen to Aurosonic's and Daniel Kandi's productions (among many others). If you listen with an "objective ear" (whatever that means) You'll probably discover that the production quality and even the melodic complexity is higher in comparison to older epic-trance tracks coming from 98, 99 and even up to 2004 and 2005.



The problem as i see it today is not so about the music per se. True is that the music hasn't evolved a lot (if at all), but then which musical genre evolved that much? You still get the same deep house and detroit techno today, only with better, more polished production techniques (funny thing that some minimal techno sounds fresher because it is a relatively new(er) thing).




The problem is about YOU/ US people. We just don't like most of this music anymore, because we are bored of it, simple as that. Our ears have "habituated" to the saw sounds/arpeggios/pads and hence trance music doesn't sound "nice" anymore. Plus, our personalities and emotions have changed, and somehow, they don't "match" this sound. People are just bored by hearing the same tricks over and over again, the saw riffs, the breakdowns, the over-dramatic melodies (i don't have a problem with it and sometimes i would listen to some modern saw trance because,srangely enough, i find it relaxing lol). This ofcourse doesn't mean that those "tricks" "don't do it" for younger generations and young people could find this music "magical" (magic music? heh)and "refreshing".




All the older trance listeners who have got bored of the newer sound would usually not listen to older epic-trance as well. You could make an effort to listen to "El-Nino", "Gouryella" and "Universal Nation" and probably these tracks will do nothing for you today, except maybe for the usual nostalgia. Maybe some would even think something like... "what i was thinking listening to this music back then?". People change faster than the music.



True, all musical genres evolve, reach a peek and eventually die, and truth is that most of genres of EDM today are not at their peek. They are probably not at their ultimate decline either. They are at a stable state though, with some usual equally good and bad stuff getting released. Its just that people don't like it anymore and label everything as "bad".




Many people go through the "Trance-Prog-Techno/House" phase, they make "genre-jumps" and they always find the "newer" genre as "fresher" and generally "better" at everything.
It is simply because they were never exposed to the other genre. Never exposed until the time they discovered it. Truth it that this specific "newly discovered" genre is probably as stable and stale as trance is. I find almost all of todays progressive and techno (and house) in the same state (the State of Trance heh). They have the exact same bloody structure that they had years ago (some even from 94 or something)be it progressive or techno (or house). People just like the "newer" genres because it somehow matches their current psychological state in better ways than their previous ones. Some people even make "retro-genre-jumps" finding the ultimate genre in some old-now-dead 80s or 90s genre or something (one of my favorite genres is 80s new-wave and many people in here love their 90s classic trance and progressive house).Its not that those genres are necessarily more complex or musically better (the famous "they don't make them like that anymore" phrase), they just-for one reason or the other- match one's psychological state better than the newer genres (and this could happen for many reasons)and hence they sound mroe pleasurable.


Trance can be dead. Progressive can be dead. Techno can be dead. House can be dead. In our minds.



So, listen and play to anything you like and don't care what the others say about how "things change to the worst". Because it is most likely that their perceptions of things have changed to the worst, not the things themselves.




And this is a long reply, but, what the f*ck, this is not the CoR. Its good to read a bit from time to time lol.

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