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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine If I'm not mistaken, the demo is the tutorial + the first level. That would be by far the best part of the game. Those particular areas are relatively bug free in comparison, much better designed and such. It seems to be a common consensus that the demo was deceiving and not really a good representation of the full game.

Well that's pretty deceiving. Thanks for the review, I'll know what to expect out of this game.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch Wait, SF4 is a button masher? Try to button mash against anyone of slight capability at the game and see how far that gets you. The last SF game, at least, was one of the deepest 2D fighters ever made.

every fighting game ever released has been a button-masher. i didn't say it didn't require skill etc, but button-mashing is par for the course for most average players.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN every fighting game ever released has been a button-masher. i didn't say it didn't require skill etc, but button-mashing is par for the course for most average players.

Do you really think so? If you speak of Tekken or Soul Calibur, then I agree wholeheartedly.

But then there's games like Mortal Kombat which pretty much rely on predetermined combos. Button mashing really won't get you anywhere. We can debate the actual quality of the game all we want, but I wouldn't say that button mashing is a trait in ALL fighting games. I think that might be stretching it.

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Do you really think so? If you speak of Tekken or Soul Calibur, then I agree wholeheartedly. But then there's games like Mortal Kombat which pretty much rely on predetermined combos. Button mashing really won't get you anywhere. We can debate the actual quality of the game all we want, but I wouldn't say that button mashing is a trait in ALL fighting games. I think that might be stretching it.

Don't forget killer instinct.

lol@button mashing for tekken

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

I, too, enjoyed the demo (on PS3) of this game. It has a lot of potential but they just didn't quite make it.

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Originally posted by Yohan lol@button mashing for tekken

Are you laughing because its such a true statement, or that its bullshit?

It really depends on the character you choose, I guess. Take Eddy Gordo for instance, a Tekken rookies favorite character. Mash the X and O buttons (think the Playstation controller ) and you will have a good chance of winning almost every time, unless you are playing someone with enough skill to counterattack.

I'm a huge Tekken fan, and a huge Soul Calibur fan as well; I wasn't calling them 'button mashers' as an insult, but more on the fact that a n00b can still own simply by finding a few of the right buttons, and pushing them over and over again (cheap as hell, but a rookie is going to take advantage of those situations).

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Originally posted by glass Don't forget killer instinct.

How could I forget. Within 5 minutes of throwing in Killer Instinct Gold on N64, I thought I was a pro.

But then I asked myself, how do I actually do the moves I'm doing? I didn't know; I was pushing buttons and directions like crazy and my character would just start pulling off wicked shit. I really didn't know what I was doing (and still don't when I play today, yet I can win all the time...I can press buttons pretty fast )

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KI Gold was kind of an in-between thing. It wasn't all just button mashing, and someone who knew special moves and combos would almost always win against a noob who didn't know what he was doing, but, that being said, the combos were super-easy to figure out, and beyond that there wasn't all that much depth. Nothing like the SF series.

I just memorized the following sequence with Kim Wu:

right-to-left half circle, right + FK = open with super dragon kick
down-to-left quartercircle + FP (twice in succession) = chain up combo with the nunchucks
down-to-right quartercircle + MK = linker special move with split kick
right-to-left halfcircle, right + FP = super dragon punch

Easy wins.

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Are you laughing because its such a true statement, or that its bullshit? It really depends on the character you choose, I guess. Take Eddy Gordo for instance, a Tekken rookies favorite character. Mash the X and O buttons (think the Playstation controller ) and you will have a good chance of winning almost every time, unless you are playing someone with enough skill to counterattack. I'm a huge Tekken fan, and a huge Soul Calibur fan as well; I wasn't calling them 'button mashers' as an insult, but more on the fact that a n00b can still own simply by finding a few of the right buttons, and pushing them over and over again (cheap as hell, but a rookie is going to take advantage of those situations).

counterattack/reversal + air juggle combos ftw. or just sidestep

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Do you really think so? If you speak of Tekken or Soul Calibur, then I agree wholeheartedly. But then there's games like Mortal Kombat which pretty much rely on predetermined combos. Button mashing really won't get you anywhere. We can debate the actual quality of the game all we want, but I wouldn't say that button mashing is a trait in ALL fighting games. I think that might be stretching it.

you've gotta remember, most people aren't very good at games. obviously in the hands of a master the knowledge required is something else, but that doesn't mean that everyone plays it like a master. i think the average players are pretty average

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Ahh I see what you're saying. I would wager that fighting games are probably the easiest video games to play, next to FPS's. And of course, most of the casual gamers will wail on the buttons chaotically rather than try and pull off moves that only a pro would do.

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As a side note, anyone remember the promo they had on the Killer Instinct Arcade units back in the day previewing the "Nintendo Ultra 64?"







The wait for Sept. '96 seemed like forever.

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