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Originally posted by chesco I tried using my brothers pioneer 800 to put together a mix tonight. It's a fuckin horrendous thing.

I'd say most people would think that's a little too far to call it "horrendous."

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Never used the 800, but someone said the build quality of pioneers is plasticy?

I do not know about their newer mixers that much but the 300/500/600 were fucking tanks, all metals except the pot and fader knobs. There was a reason that the 600 could basically be seen in every photo from pretty much any club in the mid-90's to about 2003 or so. Even now its not uncommon to find a 600 at events. The things are built to last.

Sound quality is a fairly moot point too unless all you do is record to an mp3 in your bedroom as most huge club systems you are not going to notice the differnce in sound between a Pioneer and an A&H.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Never used the 800, but someone said the build quality of pioneers is plasticy? I do not know about their newer mixers that much but the 300/500/600 were fucking tanks, all metals except the pot and fader knobs. There was a reason that the 600 could basically be seen in every photo from pretty much any club in the mid-90's to about 2003 or so. Even now its not uncommon to find a 600 at events. The things are built to last. Sound quality is a fairly moot point too unless all you do is record to an mp3 in your bedroom as most huge club systems you are not going to notice the differnce in sound between a Pioneer and an A&H.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Never used the 800, but someone said the build quality of pioneers is plasticy? I do not know about their newer mixers that much but the 300/500/600 were fucking tanks, all metals except the pot and fader knobs.

The 800 is just as well built as the 600, just with much better sound quality and more features. The CDJs are plasticy, but the mixers all seem to be a lot heavier duty.

Not really sure why you say that you won't notice the difference between a 600 and an A&H in a bedroom but you would in club..... with the available speaker and amplifier hardware that most of us have access to these days, putting together a relatively high quality sound system is not to difficult to achieve.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

And you do?

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister The 800 is just as well built as the 600, just with much better sound quality and more features. The CDJs are plasticy, but the mixers all seem to be a lot heavier duty. Not really sure why you say that you won't notice the difference between a 600 and an A&H in a bedroom but you would in club..... with the available speaker and amplifier hardware that most of us have access to these days, putting together a relatively high quality sound system is not to difficult to achieve.

I said in a club you wont notice the difference as most systems besides really really nice ones are not tuned in a way that you would notice the minute difference.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I said in a club you wont notice the difference as most systems besides really really nice ones are not tuned in a way that you would notice the minute difference.

if you could hear how almost any system sounds with each one, i guarantee you the differences would not be minute

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Originally posted by Allied Nations if you could hear how almost any system sounds with each one, i guarantee you the differences would not be minute

I have heard both A&H and Pioneers on different systems and have noticed no discernible difference.

I doubt in a packed club with 200-300 or more bodies at ear blistering decibels you could even begin to tell.

Yes you can.

Regardless of club systems, as personal preference, I've played on the 800 loads and the 92 loads.

The 4 channel EQ curves on the 92 are fucking brilliant. I know exactly how to shape the sound with them, I know exactly which knob will reduce what, and it really just adds another level of control. The 800's eq knobs feel like eq three in ableton, i.e., faders for each band, which is not how the 92 works. I feel like on the whole, the 92 is just more precise and unforgiving. It does exactly what you tell it to do, whereas with the 800 I feel like when I drop the low end in it adds some highs...

I can get what I want out of both, I just have more fun with the 92...

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Originally posted by chesco Yes you can.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby And you do?

yeah, he does.