I wont go into to vengeance ripping sounds again in this thread. use the search to find a long thread on that subject.

@Derail. I am comparing an empirical labs distressor and API 525 with all of the UAD plugins and the waves C1.

Try running a standard kick drum through the c1. After a couple of db of gain reduction i can clearly hear the low end being affected. If you then bring up the make up gain to match the original uncompressed signal, the compressed signal may sound somewhat louder and punchier but the original source has a more rounder and deeper bass content. You can double check this with a spectrum analyser.

When dialing in similar settings with the distressor or API the compressed signal still retains the bass content and sounds more "real". Its hard to explain until you compare them yourself.

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Originally posted by dannib I wont go into to vengeance ripping sounds again in this thread. use the search to find a long thread on that subject. @Derail. I am comparing an empirical labs distressor and API 525 with all of the UAD plugins and the waves C1. Try running a standard kick drum through the c1. After a couple of db of gain reduction i can clearly hear the low end being affected. If you then bring up the make up gain to match the original uncompressed signal, the compressed signal may sound somewhat louder and punchier but the original source has a more rounder and deeper bass content. You can double check this with a spectrum analyser. When dialing in similar settings with the distressor or API the compressed signal still retains the bass content and sounds more "real". Its hard to explain until you compare them yourself.

Interesting stuff - any chance you could post some sound examples?
Like say a loop or a kick ran through a C1, then through your Empirical Labs distressor? would be interesting to have a listen, thanks

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Originally posted by dannib I wont go into to vengeance ripping sounds again in this thread. use the search to find a long thread on that subject. @Derail. I am comparing an empirical labs distressor and API 525 with all of the UAD plugins and the waves C1. Try running a standard kick drum through the c1. After a couple of db of gain reduction i can clearly hear the low end being affected. If you then bring up the make up gain to match the original uncompressed signal, the compressed signal may sound somewhat louder and punchier but the original source has a more rounder and deeper bass content. You can double check this with a spectrum analyser. When dialing in similar settings with the distressor or API the compressed signal still retains the bass content and sounds more "real". Its hard to explain until you compare them yourself.

I got EL Distressor on the shopping list.....and I use the C1 a lot, and have noticed the same thing you speak of, the C1 isn't so nice to low end freqs. So i'd like to hear a comparison as well.

i will try and get something uploaded either tomorrow or sunday.

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Originally posted by dannib i will try and get something uploaded either tomorrow or sunday.

Thanks

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Originally posted by mysticalninja Contrary to popular belief.. Manuel doesn't rip his sounds off people, people just use them a lot. If you check the release dates for whatever you think he ripped, you'll probably find the Vengeance CD came out first.

True, if you watch future music producer videos you will see many pros uses vengeance samples and many straight percussion and hihat loops. So they dont even bother to do own hihat patterns. So people why dont you use methods what sounds best and grow up and stop judging things you dont know. Manuel is nice guy btw..

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Or for god sakes check your sources and read in on the subjects before you start talking shit.

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Originally posted by dannib i will try and get something uploaded either tomorrow or sunday.

thx

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Originally posted by dannib i will try and get something uploaded either tomorrow or sunday.

that's great! a distressor is something i'm looking at since some time

Since I stopped compressing the shit out of things people have stopped saying my mixes suck! All I do if I do need to keep levels in check is have a multiband gently compress the master channel.

Although can anyone tell me why when I upload a mp3 to myspace it sounds over compressed and watery ??

The same file sounds ok but just not on myspace. You can see the effect by looking at the track i have posted in the promotion forum then checkin the one on myspace www.myspace.com/richardwilson.

Before u jump on i am not promoting there is a real diff between them almost distortion on myspace.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Or for god sakes check your sources and read in on the subjects before you start talking shit.

So what part in my post was not true? They dont use vengeance samples? So every professional musician/producer make their own samples? Im curious tell me...
And for the subject i already post an answer before. Are you hired here for somekind of forum police to tell people when they can talk or not. Typical weed smoker....

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